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'Old Pink Daily' rose Reviews & Comments
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Evergreen in zone 9b.
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I can see this rather unassuming rose could well end up being one of my favourites. I originally ordered it because it some sources said it was almost thornless, and because it had historical value.
The actual bush turns out to not be anywhere near thornless, at least so far. I'd call it lightly to moderately armed (the same applies to its sport, Archduke Charles). However, overall it's a far more appealing shrub than I'd banked on.
The flowers in photos #286361 and 286362, which I said were "looking distinctly ratty" a few hours later, are still hanging on the bush quite nicely and have been joined by others. On reflection, they're more "informal" than "ratty". Once you get used to the somewhat floppy look (nothing like a modern HT) they're still very enjoyable.
They do lose their scent quickly though. Fully opened, they have very little scent. There's also very little early in the morning. I've found that the best scent seems to be in the afternoon, when they have a bit of warmth to bring it out, and when the blooms are just opening. In those circumstances the scent is stronger and is very pleasant, with more rose to it on top of the basic fruity.
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For me the fragrance is strongest at about 5 o'clock on a sunny day as afternoon tempers toward evening time. It has a scent a little like a deciduous Azalea, very distinct from European roses.
I grow my plant in a large pot against a warm wall it is just starting its third flush of the season, out-flowering many modern hybrids and doing very well in my cold wet climate. A pity it is not more often grown or seen for sale.
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25 FEB 04 by
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How far apart should I plant old blush roses?
What are the thorns like?
What shape do they grow in (bushy, tall, ect.ect.)?
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25 FEB 04 by
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If you want a hedge, plant three feet apart. Old Blush grows to about 5 feet tall and nearly 5 feet wide as well with full foliage. It's almost completely thornless.
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A bit late for a reply to this, but the young 'Old Blush' I have (sourced from Thomas for Roses) could not be described as "almost completely thornless". At this stage of its life it is moderately thorny.
The 1805 reference says "stem green, shining, and thorny towards the base". Since mine has only been in the ground for a bit under three weeks, the canes that are on it are the ones that were cut back before it was shipped*. Going from that, it looks like the 1805 reference is on the money.
*Current height around 450 mm (18").
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I have ten Old Blush own root roses in 2 gal pots, just bought. Ready to plant. I'm in Zone 9b (FL). I want to try to make a hedge of these. How far apart should I plant?
Also, can you tell me how to prune existing Old Blush shrubs to thicken them up, in my zone? They are blooming but thin. I haven't "cut" on them. They get FULL SUN and water and are healthy except for leaf cutter bees at times. But not thick looking. They're about 4 feet tall and 3-5 wide now, but as I say, just not very thick.
I read that you "should not" prune Old Blush. How to make them thick, and for a hedge then? I've seen photos of these roses that are THICK hedges. Do those people just use hedge trimmers to shape the plants like a rectangle-hedge? Or what? Do they go along with pruners and carefully prune with the outward facing bud, etc. etc.? What time of year would I prune here in Zone 9b?
So many questions and different answers everywhere, very confusing. Hope someone here has the real info!
Thanks! So much. :)
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Like many China roses, Old Blush grows into a twiggy mass by itself. It can take a while for it to develop into the size and density of plant you want, but it can do it. General shaping can be done without harming the plant. You just don't want to whack it back as some do modern HTs and floribundas or it can sulk, just sit there and seem to do nothing. If you are intending to try keeping the plant to three feet and you want you the hedge to get denser, more quickly, you can try planting them five to six feet apart so as they develop into the three by three foot size, they'll touch each other. If you want it taller and don't mind waiting longer, space them farther apart. Give them average water for your climate and feed as you would most other roses and let them do their thing. If you have to prune, just shape the plant as you would any other hedging plant, meaning clean it up around the edges. Just don't whack it back to ten inches and expect it to respond as Iceberg or other shrub types usually do. Good luck!
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Thank you! I keep hearing so many conflicting things. I called ARE and they said whack them twice a year. Sigh. 50% in Feb, etc. Gah. But thank you!
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You're welcome! That could be a climate thing. Here in SoCal, many Chinas and Teas, as well as closely related types, can sit and sulk for long periods when whacked too severely. If you're in similar conditions to ARE, give their method a try. If not, go with what seems most appropriate to you or what someone who is in your climate/conditions has success with.
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