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31 MAR 23 by
styrax
It is a nice bloom, but probably not worth the wait!
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#1 of 5 posted
31 MAR 23 by
Lee H.
10 years! You are a patient man, Mr. Rippetoe
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Yes, well, it was a unique cross and it took some effort to make it happen.
Patience is a necessity when breeding roses. I always say time is going to pass regardless, so, the best time to start is now.
I met Ralph Moore when he was 70 and knew him on and off for over thirty years. One can get a lot accomplished in thirty years.
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It's only worth the wait in terms of using it to move forward.
Ordinarily I wouldn't give a seedling this long to show it's self, but gigantea, bracteata, banksia derivatives are hard to come by.
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1 APR 23 by
Lee H.
It is easy to see from your breeder notes and crosses that you have specific goals that you are working toward. I’m afraid I’m still rather scattershot in my “hobbyist” approach, and therefore the lack of such patience.
I should take this opportunity to thank you for being so transparent with information on your many crosses and their lineage. Not every breeder is. For me, it’s like getting a peek behind the curtain…
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Not all breeders work the same and they have different goals. I learned from Ralph Moore's work that it sometimes take a number of generations to achieve goals, especially when integrating species.
Most breeders simply breed one commercial variety to another. It's the easiest most direct route to getting something commercial looking, but it amounts to "stirring the pot" when it comes to genetics. That doesn't particularly interest me.
Hobbyists are often the one's that really make a difference long term. Look at the work of some of the English breeders, Scrivens for instance. He made some wonderful contributions.
This said, once a breeder passes most work disappears unless he's lucky enough to get a variety that achieves wide distribution and that's what usually happens.
The great thing about HMF is that we can document. I gave up documenting everything at HMF long ago but it allows a platform if we choose to do so.
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