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Discussion id : 124-481
most recent 28 DEC 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 DEC 20 by flodur
This is the Boursault from Shailer 1796
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 24 DEC 20 by jedmar
Andrews calls it Shailer's Province Rose, or Rosa gracilis
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 26 DEC 20 by flodur
Look at the leaves and read the description in: Roses, or, A Monograph of The Genus Rosa, by Henry Charles Andrews 1805 or 1828 (2 different plates, but the same text!)
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 27 DEC 20 by jedmar
The 1805 and 1828 editions have both the same plate of Rosa gracilis. Can you post your different plate here please?
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 27 DEC 20 by jedmar
I have both editions. Text and plate are the same
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 27 DEC 20 by flodur
Not in the two editions I have from Archiv.org
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 28 DEC 20 by jedmar
I see what happened: In the 1805 edition, the plates follow the description. The different plate you have here is actually R. eglanteria multiplex. If you turn over the page with the description, you will find the plate of R. gracilis, which is the same as in 1828.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 28 DEC 20 by flodur
Thanks
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 27 DEC 20 by jedmar
It seems to me that 'Shailer's Province' = Rosa gracilis Andr. and the Boursault 'Gracilis' are all the same rose. According to the 1851 Reference, Shailer states that he bred a number of seedlings from R. pendulina, which were then commercialized as 'Shailer's Province' by Lee. Subsequent authors have then described 'Gracilis' either as a hybrid provence or a Boursault.
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