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Granada  rose photo courtesy of Seil
Discussion id : 34-189
most recent 30 DEC 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 FEB 09 by digger
Granada was a terrible mildew magnet the first few years it was planted in our yard. It didn't get powdery mildew as bad once it got established (year 4?). Washing foliage has kept it clean the last 4 years. Granada is planted in the garden and gets pretty big by the end of season now, 6 feet tall x 5+ feet wide.

Dave
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 24 FEB 09 by Seil
Thanks Dave, good to know that it may outgrow it's mildew tendency. I really love this rose for it's bright colors and that very different foliage. It did so well last season and impressed me with how much it bloomed.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 24 FEB 09 by digger
I don't want to mislead. Granada will still get pm pretty bad if neglected. I just don't rate it as terrible any more. I considered getting rid of Granada those first few years it was so bad. I'm glad Deb prevailed back then. I do rate the fragrance among my favorite 5 scents. I would miss having the gaudy thing in the yard.
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 29 DEC 10 by Dave Bang
If you want to get rid of powdery mildew and have more blooms at the same time you can use "pure flower" by HYGROCORP. Its organic and requires 1.5 teaspoon per gallon of water. I personally add one ounce of skim milk per gallon of water. The milk acts as a surfactant meaning it will spread the pure flower over the foliage rather than bead on the leaf and roll off. If you have a rose that is relatively good with mildew you can spray once a month if you have a rose that is a magnet for mildew spray once every two weeks and you will be mildew free. It is better to spray before you see signs of mildew. Pure flower leaves no residue. It is totally clear. See the results below with Black Baccara a mildew magnet.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 29 DEC 10 by Seil
Thanks, Dave! That's good to know about. I'm always looking for new and better ways to combat diseases. I've used a home brew that contains milk powder before and it wasn't very effective. But maybe with the pure flower it would be.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 30 DEC 10 by Dave Bang
I am not sure about powdered milk but I believe skim milk has some beneficial bacteria that helps a little with mildew but the pure flower is a big help. For milk to work as a mildew killer you need to use 10-12 ounces per gallon. Far to much milk for me to go this route. I just use 1 ounce of milk per gallon of water as a wetting agent. I read a note from Dave and Deb Boyd from Montana and it stated that if they sprayed the foliage with water two times a week they controlled mildew. I concur with this idea. It is important to point out that I spray my roses once a week with nutrient solutions. So that may account for clean foliage. One week earth juice microblast half strength, next week half strength liquid seaweed kelp, next week pure flower full strength 1.5 teaspoon/gal water, next week liquid iron half strength, next week half strength B-1. Next week Pure flower again. Then I repeat the list again which I believe most of these products they recommend that you spray once every 3-4 weeks so it works out perfect. All of these spray sessions you need to add 1 ounce of milk per gallon of water. So if you spray with 15 gallons you use 15 ounces of milk. I have 400 roses so a power sprayer with high capacity turns an all day job into two hours. After adopting this method I have not had any occurences of rust or black spot. Be careful not to over fertilize by adding other fertilizers to the soil as well. Keep track of your delution rates and adjust accordingly if you want to add to the soil as well. The only product I add to the soil every three months is 8 ounces of alfalfa pellets.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 30 DEC 10 by Landperson
Dave, can you tell me/us what kind of a sprayer you find works best for the kind of spraying you are describing?
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 30 DEC 10 by Dave Bang
Sure, I bought mine from a place called Gardenland in Campbell, California. It is a 15 gallon with a cart to drag it around the yard and a 12volt car battery. It was about 400 dollars for everything. You can get them cheaper. Do a web search for northern tool. When you get to the site type the keyword search of 26810 or just scroll down and look for the text sprayers. That is a good example of something very similar to mine, but you will have to buy a battery to power it and cart that you can get for $85 at Ace los gatos hardware in los gatos ca so you can pull it through the yard. For people reading this out of california you will have to search your own city for something similar. You could go real cheap and just buy the sprayer for $130 and buy a car battery and you would be good to go. You will just need to carry the sprayer assembly (15 pounds) to the middle of your yard empty of water of course and buy a 50-75 foot hose or whatever length for your yard size. This way you wont need to pull the whole assembly around. So the spray stays fixed and you walk around the yard with the sprayer hose.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 30 DEC 10 by Landperson
Excellent. The idea of having some power for spraying had never occurred to me, and....I definitely like it. Many thanks (from me and from the roses).
Susan
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