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jedmar 
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Bonjour,
La photo de AmiRoses concernant la rose 'Madame Louis Ricard' parait bien être celle qui pousse sur un arceau à L'Hay les Roses. Celle que je cultive vient de cet arceau, un rosier très sarmenteux. Chez moi il fait des tiges aisément palissables de plus de 4 m, ce qui ne me parait pas vraiment correspondre à un Hybride remontant. D'autre part, il n'est pas remontant ! Il peut parfois présenter quelques rares roses à l'automne tout comme j'en trouve sur mon Alba semi-plena. Je me garderai bien d'oser dire que sa floraison remonte !
Je possède A Celebration of Old Roses de Trevor Griffiths, 1990. A la page 98, il écrit " Mme Louis Ricard (1904). Large, double, bright pink blooms a freely produced on a vigourous plant. Raised by Boutigny, this hybrid is of more recent origins." Je confirme que la floraison de printemps est remarquablement abondante (et parfumée). Mais Griffiths ne dit pas qu'il est remontant, contrairement à la référence sur HMF lcitant à la page 98 : "Mme Louis Ricard. Hybrid Perpetual. Boutigny (1904) ... Je n'ai pas le Rosenlexikon et ma Nomenclature de tous les noms de Roses, se trouve quelque part à retrouver...
Amicalement,
Daniel
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yesterday by
jedmar
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Nous avons ajouté quelques reférence de JdR, modifié la classe au HR sarmenteux et changé la floraison.
Voulez-cous svp commenter sur le reférences de JDR 1910 à propos les roses 'Mlle Honorine Duboc' et 'Mme Louis Ricard' de Duboc?
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This author cites Laffay as the breeder.
Pearson's Encyclopedia of Roses, (1956) pg. 172
Cardinal de Richelieu (R. gallica hybrid)
Rich velvety-purple blooms, large and with plenty of petals. Fragrant. Makes a strong, bushy plant. (Laffay, 1840.)
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4 days ago by
jedmar
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Yes, 20th century authors state Laffay 1840, however, the earliest references from the 19th century attribute it to Parmentier. François Joyaux in "La Rose de France" also has Parmentier as the breeder. We have added this reference with the explanation of the error.
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yesterday by
Bug_girl
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3 days ago by
flodur
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The rose was not dedicated to Heinrich Ludolph Wendland (1792-1869). He died when Wilhelm Kordes was 4 years old, long before Kordes was founded in 1887. Wilhelm Kordes named the rose after a senior employee of the Späth nursery in Berlin, "an unforgettable friend". (Information from Wikipedia). But there was also a Heinrich Wendland in Kiel (close to Kordes), owner of the "Forstecker Baumschule".
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3 days ago by
jedmar
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Thank you, note corrected.
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Beautiful!
I'm surprised this one isn't more common and popular.
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4 days ago by
Lee H.
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Perhaps a climbing rose has a smaller consumer market?
Also, based on parentage, I am somewhat doubtful of 2b hardiness, but perhaps there is some rugosa hiding in there.
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#2 of 2 posted
4 days ago by
jedmar
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2b was incorrect, modified it to 5b as per the reference.
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