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Initial post 11 JAN by odinthor
Is the identity of the rose(s) shown in the various photos certain? This is not what I would anticipate for a rose which was described early on as "deep cerise," "light red," "bright purplish red," or even just "cerise pink."
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 11 JAN by Margaret Furness
Interesting that none of the references mention a white eye.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 13 JAN by HubertG
I don't know it's provenance but if it's described as lighter than 'Nancy Hayward' and darker than 'Jessie Clark', and is clearly a Gigantea hybrid, it's probably right. I suspect that the earliest flowers in August/winter are more saturated in colour than the later ones. I haven't grown it but I have grown 'Jessie Clark' and its blooms faded quite quickly on the plant, so perhaps this is also what is showing up in the photos here.
The photo of 'Flying Colours' in the 2014 Mistydowns catalogue shows what could be described as a dark pink/cerise/light red flower and the photo in Peter Cox's book 'Australian Roses' is also a similar shade.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 15 FEB by Margaret Furness
The references to Jessie Clark don't mention a white eye either. Maybe just imprecision of early reports.
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most recent 9 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 FEB by odinthor
Surely this is a photo of Pernetiana 'Souvenir de Georges Pernet', not of Polyantha 'Georges Pernet'.
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Initial post 9 AUG 13 by Patricia Routley
There are a few things about 'Purity' wich don't quite jell.
* The breeder: Hoopes – or Farrell?
* The date bred. At the moment 1917 is shown.
* It was mentioned in the 1919 ref that it was from the same hip as 'Christine Wright', and the date of that rose is 1909.
* There are two different seed parents listed.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 1 FEB by odinthor
"Early hybridization [for the firm] directed by Hoopes, effected by James A. Farrell" (Roll-Call, by Brent C. Dickerson, 2nd edition, 2024, entry for Hoopes, Bro. & Thomas, p. 226).
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 FEB by jedmar
Thank you!
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most recent 27 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 JAN by odinthor
Lengthy mostly biographical article on Fenzi in Madroño, vol. 7, 1943, p. 18ff.
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