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Initial post 20 NOV 09 by billy teabag
Your photos of this rose are gorgeous. Is it growing in your own garden? If so, do you have a record of where you sourced the plant?
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 20 NOV 09 by Brenton George
Thanks for your comments. I have 2 Mme Jules Gravereaux (5 years old) growing on a trellis. Outstanding this season. I think I got mine from Mistydowns Nursery in Victoria. Golden Vale nursery in Benalla also may stock it.

Cheers Brenton
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 20 NOV 09 by kai-eric
could you please show pictures of the prickles of your plants for comparing with my
Photo Id: 86460?
both 'mme jules gravereaux' and 'comtesse de noghera' at europarosarium sangerhausen are showing this very distinctive type of hooked prickles.
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 23 NOV 09 by Margaret Furness
I asked David Ruston where his original plant of Mme Jules came from, but it wasn't documented. Ruston's has been for a long time the major source of budwood in Australia.
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 23 NOV 09 by billy teabag
We had a note from David a few years back saying that he had at last got hold of this rose - that he had obtained it from M. Ross. I don't know the provenance beyond this. It was very likely an import from Beales ex Wyatt ex ?? but there was a rose found in Tasmania by Lilia Weatherly that was said to be 'Mme Jules Gravereaux' (Lilia wrote of this in the journal of HRIA and I'll add the ref to hmf), so it just might be this one.
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 24 NOV 09 by Brenton George
I have posted a photo of mature cane showing a couple of thorns in closeup. Hope this helps.

Brenton George
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 24 NOV 09 by kai-eric
thank you a lot, brenton.
prickles are very similar to those on my 'mme jules gravereaux' from austin/uk. broad elliptical leaflets that i've detected on another of your pictures, are showing equal resemblance to my plant.
can you tell us about its growth properties? is it really climbing?
what's about fragrance?
austin's clone smells like a richly perfumed fruit salad.
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 24 NOV 09 by jedmar
...or melon!
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 24 NOV 09 by kai-eric
thank you jedmar, melon is part of the salad.
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 24 NOV 09 by Brenton George
You asked about growth the growth habit of MJG. Yes for me she is a genuine climber. My trellis is over 2 metres high and her canes well exceed this. Unfortunately possums love her and regularly travel across the top of the trellis and trim back the new growth(especially in early spring) so it is difficult to gauge her true height. Responds to generous feeding. I have only one other climbing tea rose (Devoniensis). This rose also suffers from possum attack but I suspect Devoniensis is the more vigorous in growth. Although my nose is unreliable I believe Mme JG has the stronger perfume. Distinctly
tea but definitely has other fruity overtones. Recently I gave a friend a bowl of MMe JG. She is regularly given cut H.Ts and Austin roses and she described Mme JG's perfume as outstanding.

Brenton
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