'Wendy C' comments & questions

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Wendy C

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RoseCologne (grandiflora, McGredy, 1988) most recent 18 JUN 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 4 SEP 06 by portlandtemple

Hello:

We have a beautiful Rose Garden. We are looking for rose plants "COLOGNE".

We used to buy it from Edmunds Roses, Wilsonville, Oregon. Now they are not in business now.

We have 600+ roses in our lot in this Non-profit organization.

Can anyone suggest where we can get rose plants COLOGNE, Sheer Bliss, Home and Family.

Is it possible to a get list of Nurseries in Oregon who sells above rose plansts.

Thank you for your reply in advance.

Thanks, Venky. Pls call me if you have any questions #@ 503-629-9457

Reply #1 of 6 posted 5 SEP 06 by Jim Delahanty

CLR2006 lists both Cologne and Sheer Bliss as available at Roses N.W. in Tualitin OR: 503.692.30666. (no internet site listed). Home & Family is lsited at Regan Nursery (www.regannursery.com) but they are not now shipping; a few other nurseries were listed but not in the PNW> JD	REPLY

Reply #4 of 6 posted 14 SEP 06 by portlandtemple

Reply #5 of 6 posted 18 JUN 22 by HMF supporting member

Michael Garhart

Roses N.W. hasn't really existed for 20 years. There is still a home there with tons of roses, as it is easily visible from the highway, but there is no business there.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 6 posted 5 SEP 06 by Wendy C

Someone has picked up the ball and a new catalog for Edmund's Roses is in the works according to the website. You could also check with Rogue Valley Roses, an own root nursery in Oregon.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 6 posted 6 SEP 06 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

You might also check the "Buy From" tab for this rose. We list 3 different suppliers. If you find they no longer carry it please let us know so we can update our site.	REPLY

Reply #6 of 6 posted 18 JUN 22 by HMF supporting member

Michael Garhart

If you are still around, contact Portland Rose Society and ask them. A member may have cuttings of it.	REPLY

RoseJust Joey (Hybrid Tea, Cants, 1972) most recent 4 MAY 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 17 MAY 06 by Dove Cochrane

My Just Joey has one cane with 4 blooms, like a floribunda. Is that common for JJ? Would someting like that be considered a sport? I have a photo if anyone would like to see what I'm talking about. Thanks,Dove	REPLY

Reply #1 of 10 posted 19 MAY 06 by HMF supporting member

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Reply #2 of 10 posted 19 MAY 06 by Dove Cochrane

Reply #9 of 10 posted 4 MAY 22 by HMF supporting member

Michael Garhart

That's not 'Just Joey'. I can tell by the foliage alone. JJ has somewhat undulated, feathery, and lightly-pointed foliage. That may be 'Sunset Celebration' with some off-coloring.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 10 posted 20 MAY 06 by HMF supporting member

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Reply #4 of 10 posted 20 MAY 06 by Wendy C

That photo doesn't look like any Just Joey I've ever seen. Has this bush always looked like this? The bloom shape and color isn't like JJ. Is it possible this is a mislabled rose?	REPLY

Reply #5 of 10 posted 20 MAY 06 by HMF supporting member

Kim Rupert

Hi, Dove. I know the "definition" of a Hybrid Tea is generally accepted as one bloom per stem, but roses are such a mixed bag of traits. It is VERY common for HTs to bloom in small to large clusters, just as it is for floribundas to provide one flower to the stem. Cluster flowering is pretty common in the several species represented in modern roses. Your cluster of blooms on Just Joey is well within the norm for not only that rose, but just about any other Hybrid Tea you could find for sale. It wouldn't be considered a sport unless the flowers were materially different from the others the plant usually produces, such as fewer or greater number of petals, different color, stripes, mottling, etc.; the growth noticably different as in elongated canes as in the case of a climber, or much more dwarf resembling a mini mutation, etc.; or something like a very fragrant rose regularly producing a scentless one, or vice versa. When the characteristic is one which is common within the range of traits possible, it's not a mutation, just an expression of what the thing CAN do. You may have never seen Just Joey do what it's doing for you at the moment, but it's a common thing to find on it, and most other Hybrid Teas.

Reply #6 of 10 posted 20 MAY 06 by Dove Cochrane

Hi Kim, I have seen my Floribundas produce a single flower and have read that Grandifloras may or may not produce multiple blooms, but wasn't aware that was the case with Hybrid Teas. I can always count on you for informative and educational responses. "...just an expression of what the thing CAN do" So in a nut shell Just Joey is showing off... cool. Dove	REPLY

Reply #7 of 10 posted 21 MAY 06 by Dove Cochrane

Hi Wendy, More than likely it's my photographic abilities (or lack thereof) that didn't capture the bloom in all it's Just Joey glory. I was trying to get a good view of the multiple stems. Cheers,Dove	REPLY

Reply #8 of 10 posted 22 MAY 06 by Cheryl

Hi Dove,

I'd be very surprised if this is 'Just Joey'. I'm with Wendy here. The buds are not right. The blooms are not right. The foliage is not right. The growth pattern is not right. The colour is not right. I've taken hundreds of shots of 'Just Joey' and have many bushes of it. I think that it will turn out to be something else. I have never seen multiple flowers on any stems. The stems on 'Just Joey' would be too weak to carry numbers of such large blooms.

Cheryl Moore

Standard Roses most recent 12 MAY 21 SHOW ALL

Initial post 20 JUN 07 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #1 of 4 posted 20 JUN 07 by Unregistered Guest

Hi Andrew. I am not sure what the average lifespan of a rose is, I think it depends on the class of rose. According to Guinness Book of Records, the world's oldest rose is in Tombstone AZ. It is a Lady Banksiae which is 122 years old and 8600 sq feet. I personally have a Rosa Wichuraiana which is over 30 years. Jody	REPLY

Reply #2 of 4 posted 23 JUN 07 by Wendy C

My father-in-law has a Peace and Mr. Lincoln which are nearly fifty years old. Given good growing conditions, and nothing terrible befalling them (severe cold, disease, etc) I think 10-20 years is not uncommon. I've got a couple which are 13 years old and going strong, and they've been moved all over creation as I've moved three times.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 4 posted 12 MAY 21 by amc439

hey thanks for your comment	REPLY

Reply #3 of 4 posted 23 JUN 07 by HMF supporting member

Cass

I've documented a rose that is about 100 years old, planted in the garden of a family home that remains in the same family. The plant is enormous, at least 15 feet wide and 12 feet tall, the variety we call 'Le Vésuve.'	REPLY

RoseHeirloom (Hybrid Tea, Warriner, 1972) most recent 11 JUL 19 SHOW ALL

Initial post 3 APR 07 by Wendy C

Heirloom grabbed me by the nose in Home Depot years ago, and I would not be without one in my garden. Mine has been moved three times, once across country and never blinked. It is disease resistant and very winter hardy. This is one I would recommend to any novice rose grower. It is a bloom machine and requires very little attention.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 8 posted 6 MAR 11 by anonymous-501906

I am surprised to see the zone 7 rating for Heirloom on HMF. This rose has been bullet-proof here in the unforgiving cold/hot/dry/windy zone 5 (or lower) climate of the high desert in Central Oregon. I have moved this rose twice and it has continued to reward me with it's fragrant, beautiful lavender flowers for over 12 years. We recently experienced a cold front with night time temperatures down to -6 this March which resulted in heavy damage (& death) to most Hybrid T's in my garden. To my surprise... not only did Heirloom suffer "any" damage to the canes... it fared far better than the Buck rose Distant Drums beside it. To top it off, it has never shown even a hint of black-spot or powdery mildew that afflicts her other poor neighbor Henri Martin. Based on my experience, I cannot recommend this rose enough. I have an affinity to OGR's but this one never seems to let me down. I have only a couple grafted roses as they are more of a challenge in my climate, but my Heirloom happens to be one of them. And, even in grafted form it continues to thrive.

Reply #2 of 8 posted 13 MAY 12 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a

Reply #3 of 8 posted 1 JAN 17 by Lavenderlace

Reply #4 of 8 posted 4 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace

I now have grafted as well as own root. We had a couple of very humid days and all bs and defoliated. There are some pretty purple flowers on bare spindly bushes though! I moved some from a clay mix to sandy fast draining soil in full sun but the end results are the same here no-spray.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 8 posted 4 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a

My 2nd own-root died this past winter (inside my garage). A week ago I bought Heirloom as bare-root ($5) grafted-on-Dr.Huey. I planted it 6 feet from a large tree, so that spot is eternally dry & won't get wet. Dave and Deb Boyd posted the best bush of Heirloom (grafted on Dr.Huey) in their alkaline loamy soil & zone 5a, with only 12" of rain per year. That's very little compared to my 20" of rain this past winter, plus 40" during spring flood & summer, for a total of 60" of wetness.

Reply #6 of 8 posted 4 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace

I hope that you have good luck with yours! I'm expecting mine to behave in the summer when it rarely rains but if they don't, there are so many that are so much more reliable in my area.	REPLY

Reply #7 of 8 posted 10 JUL 19 by plisa

I have had the exact same experience with Heirloom. I have lost a 3-4 plants now. It does well initially, even pulls through winter. But get's heavy blackspot, defoliates and then plant becomes progressively weaker and simply disappears. Mine have been grafted. I love the flower and fragrance. but no luck growing this one.	REPLY

Reply #8 of 8 posted 11 JUL 19 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a

Thank you for the info.	REPLY