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Just wondering where in Australia you are growing Ali Baba. I am in Toowoomba and was thinking of growing it on a fencing panel at the end iof my potting shed. Thanks Bonita
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Beautiful rose. The ruffled flower shape looks a bit like 'Polka'.
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Hi Nastarana
Thank you and yes, you're right, the flowers are very ruffled, like Polka, but the blooms are not as big as Polka and have less petals. They compensate for this with the abundance of blooms.
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Hi Bonita
I grow Ali Baba in the Southern Tablelands of NSW, so, very cold winters and warm, but not too hot summers, with little to no humidity. It is in a position sheltered from the hot afternoon sun, and the worst of the winds. I think it would go well next to your potting shed. This rose does make a statement! :-)
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#4 of 4 posted
16 NOV by
Bonita
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Thanks very much. I will have to wait fir it next season now. I might grow a Petrea with it to quickly cover the frame before the rose arrives.
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Last Saturday I took blooms of 'Hector Deane' to our Good Day Out rose gathering where we have a 'Show and Tell'. People swooned over its perfume. Fifteen people requested I arrange budded plants from my bush. Looking around for a budder as our local expert has retired.
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The Gardening Bulletin E & W Hackett Limited Adelaide South Australia
April 1, 1937 page 93
Rose Notes
Katherine Pechtold
Absolutely outstanding, and one of the best introductions of recent years. Pointed buds of old gold and bronzy orange, which develop to full, shapely blooms of a lovely coppery-orange flushed with rose-pink and golden yellow. Sweet clove pink fragrance. A decided acquisition, and such as must become a favourite.
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19 SEP 22 by
Bonita
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It is possibly a long shot. But does anyone grow it still in Australia?
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Would those who grow this rose under any name, please check for seeds and hips? My plant ("Mr Williams' rose") set a few hips but I note that no descendants are listed.
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Hi Margaret,
As I recall it will occasionally set OP hips. However, in my experience most of these hips were dummies and held no viable seed.
Knowing what I know now, I'd guess you could coax seed fertility out of it with some effort.
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Thank you.
It's more the correctness of the ID I'm chasing. Alas I no longer have a plant, and my previous garden has mostly been demolished by the new owner. It happens.
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I have no faith that what I grew was correct.
There are many imposters for well known OGR's, as you know.
To make matters worse, many of them are closely related, which adds to the confusion.
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Indeed.
We're working on a booklet of mystery Teas in Australia, and throwing in a selection of those which have been circulated under wrong names. Some still are.
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#5 of 12 posted
18 FEB 22 by
Bonita
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Margaret Furness
I have a plant of Elie Beauvillain but have deadheaded it regularly so I don’t know about hips. Mine is growing up and around a coppers log.
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We had the same problem with finding hips at Renmark - David was a compulsive deadheader!
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#7 of 12 posted
19 FEB 22 by
 AmiRoses
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I uploaded some photos of a hip I have.
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Thank you!
Are you going to try planting the seed?
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#9 of 12 posted
19 FEB 22 by
AmiRoses
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Already done, we'll see !
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#11 of 12 posted
12 JUL 22 by
Bonita
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Hello Margaret
I have a plant of this up on a koppers log. It is sending down arching canes and is in bloom today 12 July 2022. It would seem to like the winter months in Toowoomba.
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It's a good rose for warm climates.
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