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most recent 26 JAN 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 JAN 17 by lili
Re: description. How does a rose get introduced in 1991 if it was not bred until 1992?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 26 JAN 17 by Margaret Furness
Time travel.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 26 JAN 17 by jedmar
Good catch! 1992 was probably the date of the ARS Registration, which was the basis for the listing. Clearly the rose was bred before 1991.
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most recent 14 JAN 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 JAN 17 by lili
Dublin Bay is a beautiful shining light. But the reason for this post - Description may be in error where breeding date is listed as 1969 and location. Think it should be 1975 in NZ tho Peter Beales "Classic Roses" puts it at 1976 in the UK. Believe McGredy moved to NZ in 1974.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 14 JAN 17 by Patricia Routley
Would you take a look ar HelpMeFind's page for Sam McGredy. Sam's final field year and number for 'Dublin Bay' was 69/1504. Good point about the location - now Ireland.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 14 JAN 17 by jedmar
Most rose books quote the "year of introduction" as the "breeding year" of a rose. In fact, there can be many years between the actual breeding, i.e. the crossing of the seed and pollen parents, and the actual commercialization. With many modern roses we see that this period can be 8-12 years, which is necessary for the breeder to have the first plant grow, bloom, then repeat for a number of years to check that the characteristics are constant and worth while for commercializing, finally to start multiplying the variety by grafting in order to have enough examples to sell in the year of introduction. At HMF we note the actual breeding year whenever this information is available, while the year of introduction then follows in a separate line.
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