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Initial post today by odinthor
Breeder needs to be changed: "Dinsmore, raised by George Wainwright, of Trenton, N.J., and sent out by Perter Henderson, in 1887, is remarkable for its freedom of bloom. Flowers are large, of good shape and of a crimson color with a purplish tint. The plant is of dwarfish habit, the flowers being produced so profusely as to prevent large growth. This season the flowers lost their color quickly, which fact may perhaps be attributed to the unfavorable weather," from Proceedings of the Annual Conventions, Society of American Florist and Ornamental Horticulturists, 1889, p. 32.
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Initial post today by Cambridgelad
Is being introduced in the UK as "Honey, Bee Mine".
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Initial post today by Michael Garhart
Possibly a parent of the CA60 rose listed in several studies regarding blackspot resistance at Agricultural and Agri-Food Canada’s (AAFC) Morden Manitoba research station.

CA60 is listed as:

"‘CA60’ (23104FR2) was an experimental rose developed at
the Agricultural and Agri-Food Canada’s (AAFC) Morden Manitoba research station from the
50
cross ‘RSM 104’ × ‘Frontenac’."

The serials for most of these newer hybrids tend to read as batch set (23) seed parent (104) pollen parent (FR) and seedling # of batch set. A ton of hybrids from their codes now read this way.

Anyway, this rose is probably responsible for some of their BS resistance breeding, so important to take note of. CA60 is not listed on HMF. If they gave a photo of CA60, I would go to the effort of asking for it to be listed, but I have no idea of its stats or looks. Based on the seedlings shown, I would imagine its a pink-red and double type.

The fact that Rosa multiflora is mentioned a lot in these studies leads me to believe its possible that 104 is a close, dwarf, repeating descended of selections to parse out black spot resistance since Rosa multiflora is a known source of widely varying resistances.
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Initial post today by Patricia Routley
I was taken by the photos uploaded this morning. If any grower can add any more information on this foundling, we will add it to the main page.
Are they red pedicels I see?
What colour is the new, and mature, wood?
Does it set hips? Any photos?
Does it mostly look like sempervirens, or a multiflora, or an Ayrshire?

The long drooping foliage probably holds the answer to this one.
Leaf colour (new)? (Mature)?
Leaf texture or surface?
Mature size of whole average leaf?
Is the end leaf size the same, or smaller or larger, than the others?
Is the leaf stipule glandular, or smooth? Photo?
Leaf rachis - prickles under?
Leaflet petioles - on short stalks, or no stalks?
How held?
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