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Initial post today by a_carl76
I wonder if this is the rose variety know as Ilias (伊利亚特).

See the following: tengbenyueji.com/shrubroses/3174.html
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Initial post today by Huyustus
more information here: www.meillandrichardier.com/rosier-charlotte-rampling-r-meihirvin.html
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Initial post today by petera
Definitely not thornless and the leaves don't look very HP unless the plant is from late in the era when some were as much china as damask. The flowers look HP but to my nose they have a very strong lemon scent which suggests china or other influence. I have never known a citrus-scented HP.
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