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'Evelyn ™' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 65-722
most recent 16 JUN 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 JUL 12 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Evelyn as own-root blooms welll in alkaline clay soil with healthy & glossy foliage. The repeat is fast, it lasts 4 to 5 days in the vase, if cut in bud-form. The petals are thick, so Evelyn withstands 100 degrees summer heat. The bush throws out spreading octopus canes and needs a lot of room even as own-root. The scent is floral peach. Very healthy as own-root in my dolomitic heavy clay. Blooms well if pruned back drastically, plus high potassium fertilizer.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 30 OCT 16 by Lavenderlace
That's good to hear that she's fragrant in 100 degree heat. Do you have any other favorites for most fragrant in high temps? Thanks!
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 30 OCT 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
The best info. on fragrance in high heat, over 100 F is given by Khalid in Pakistan, he posted detailed info. on fragrance on his 100+ roses in Organic rose forum. His roses are grafted on Centifolia, which secretes plenty of acid, so the info. is useful for those with acidic & loamy soil.

My roses are mostly own-roots, and my soil is alkaline clay, plus my summer is mostly 80 F to 90 F. The most fragrant roses in high heat are Meilland roses (Firefighter & Dee-lish), and Romantica roses (Frederic Mistral, Liv Tyler, Bolero, Tchaikovsky, and Austin roses which prefer alkaline (Evelyn, Mary Magdalene, Pat Austin, Radio Times).

I find that heat doesn't affect the scent as much as soil pH and chemistry. Take Comte de Chambord, an Old Garden rose .. once I make the soil acidic & loamy plus chicken-manure, the scent is fabulous in high heat near 90's. Old Garden roses prefer acidic pH like that of rain water (pH 5.6).
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 30 OCT 16 by Lavenderlace
I had seen Khalid's observations and that was actually one of the reasons that I planted Ebb Tide, plus the raves on the fragrance. Thanks again for all of your tips!
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 15 JUN 17 by Lavenderlace
Update: My Evelyns are doing great in sandy soil. Very vigorous, healthy, and lots of blooms.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 16 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Lavenderlace: Evelyn with large & dark green & glossy foliage blooms great with my alkaline soil & water for the past 6 years as own-root. It blooms even more once I made my clay more loamy (mix in pine-bark). I also fix my alkaline tap water with sulfate of potash & gypsum to prevent thin & weak stems.

Received 8 roses today 6/15 from Roses Unlimited Summer sale: Madame Earnest Calvat (pale & large leaves), James Galway (pale & large leaves), The Dark Lady (small leaves, medium-green, many blooms), The Squire (larger & DARK GREEN leaves, many blooms), Marie Daly (PALE tiny leaves, lots of buds), Anna's promise (medium-green leaves), Twilight Zone (almost thornless, medium-green, LARGE & thick leaves), Sutter's Gold (pale, very large, glossy leaves, zero blooms).

Marie Daly and the Dark Lady both have small & pale leaves, means I have to make my soil loamy & fast-draining. Marie Daly is an Earthkind & drought-tolerant rose and The Dark Lady has Rugosa heritage.

My code for OWN-ROOT roses: PALE LEAVES prefer loamy soil & acidic rain. DARK-GREEN prefer heavy/alkaline clay GLOSSY: best with partial shade & wet & need more solid minerals. TINY LEAVES prefer loamy & drought-tolerant (species). LARGE LEAVES = vigorous & deep root. THICK LEAVES = heat tolerant.

My Prediction: the pale ones with zero blooms will need added sulfate of potash & gypsum to fix alkaline tap water. Tiny leaves is best in loamy/sandy soil. The large leaves (Madame and James and Sutter's Gold) will have deep & big & vigorous root. The dark-green leaves The Squire and medium-green Anna's promise will bloom well in my heavy clay.

Large, thick, pale leaves but less-thorn Twilight Zone: I hope it doesn't have multiflora genetics (needs acidic rain & cool). I already had Mary Daly before: needs loamy soil & acidic rain, thanks to its VERY PALE & tiny leaves. Sutter's gold leaves are pale, but LARGER & THICKER than Bronze Star, so it'll be deeper root & heat-tolerant. Bronze Star was a big water-hog & could not bloom unless 24/7 rain. Sutter' Gold has glossy leaves, best in partial shade.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 16 JUN 17 by Lavenderlace
These are great guidelines, thank you! I can't wait to hear your reports on Sutter's Gold's fragrance. If Twilight Zone is anything like Ebb Tide here, it should be able to handle the heat. Heat index is 108 today and Ebb Tide is loaded with blooms.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 16 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thanks for the info. I updated my code for own-roots-preference. Twilight Zone has Ebb Tide as its parent, and the leaves of Twilight Zone are quite thick like Sutter's Gold, but not as large nor glossy. Barbra Streisand's leaves are large & thick, but its downfall is glossy, so that can't handle full sun above 90 F. Thick leaves can handle heat, but glossy leaves are best in partial shade. Glossy leaves retain & need lots of water. In this hot & dry weather, the bunnies devour ALL the leaves from my glossy-FlowerCarpet, but left Lynnie (large leathery foliage) alone. I leave water out for bunnies, but they prefer to "eat" their water, rather than drink !!
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Discussion id : 97-058
most recent 26 JAN 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 JAN 17 by lili
Re: description. How does a rose get introduced in 1991 if it was not bred until 1992?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 26 JAN 17 by Margaret Furness
Time travel.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 26 JAN 17 by jedmar
Good catch! 1992 was probably the date of the ARS Registration, which was the basis for the listing. Clearly the rose was bred before 1991.
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Discussion id : 94-012
most recent 15 JUL 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 JUL 16 by kysusan
Evelyn blossoms have heavy substance and very long staying power on the bush. It's high 80 low 90° in zone 6B right now, and blossoms of Evelyn have lasted about nine days on the plant in full, unrelenting sunshine. Fabulous scent, fades in hot weather but still detectable. Her strong stems withstand high winds at my site, and they are longer than all my other Austins. If I could only have one rose, gasp!, it'd be a hard choice between Evelyn and Sharifa Asma.
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Discussion id : 93-619
most recent 20 JUN 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 JUN 16 by bumblekim
I think Evelyn is one of the most photogenic roses! The way the petals curl and the color brings out the best in photos
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