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'Chinese Monthly Rose' Reviews & Comments
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Nicolaas Laurens Burman, in Flora Indica (1768), cited "Foo-seu vulgo Ibara. Kaempf. amoen. 862." under Rosa indica.
Amoenitatum exoticarum (1712)
Engelbert Kaempfer
Foo sen, it. Kinso qua, vulgo Ibara, it. Igi, i.e. spina, Igino fanna, i.e. flos spinae, vel mutuato a Lusitanis vocabulo: Rosa. Rosa frutex spinosus nostras. Non habet eam odoris gratiam, quam in Europa vel Asia occidentali. Varietates sunt:
Rosa hortensis flore pleno albo.
Eadem flore rubro.
Rosa sylvestris flore pentapetalo, odore perdulci.
Eadem flore candido.
Not as pleasantly scented as those of Europe and western Asia.
Varieties:
Double white garden rose.
The same, with red flowers.
Wild rose with 5 petals and sweet scented.
The same, with white flowers.
These descriptions are too brief to be identified with any particular species.
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The Crimson China was also listed as "semperflorens punicea".
Plantarum horti academici Erlangensis enumeratio, adjectis specierum novarum ...1814 p. 110-111
By Carl Friedrich Philipp von Martius
R. semperflorens a) punicea b) pallida
Catalogus plantarum regii horti botanici Taurinensis: Joannes Biroli. 1815 p. 66
Rosa semperflorens punicea
Le Jardin de Saint-Sébastien, soit catalogue des plantes qu'on y cultive 1818 p. 22
By De Spin
Rosa semperflorens punicea, punicea fl. pl.
Catalogus stirpium quoe aluntur in regio horto Taurinensi 1821 p. 48
By Charles Capelli
Rosa semperflorens punicea, modoetiae, molinerii, parviflora, Thea Hortul.
Pflanzen-Verzeichniß des Königlichen Hofgartens zu Würzburg 1823 p. 36
By A. Heller
Semperflorens punicea plena
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Initial post
24 JUN 07 by
Unregistered Guest
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The roses pictured in HMF as the found rose "Belfield" do not appear to match the rose pictured on page 19 of "Old Garden Roses in Bermuda", 1984, nor the plant I grow as "Belfield". The rose pictured in the booklet and also my rose, is distinctly red, not pale, not pink. And the two Redoute plates do not relate to the "Belfield" rose.
Richard Thompson, the US rosarian, discovered this rose in 1953 at Belfield in Somerset, Bermuda and later confirmed that it was a rediscovery of 'Slater's Crimson China', Rosa chinensis semperflorens. "Belfield" does match several early colored illustrations of 'Slater's Crimson", R. chinensis semperflorens, or R. semperflorens; small, bright red, barely double, and with prickles on the flower stems or pedicels.
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27 JAN 13 by
 drogers
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The book Roses In Bermuda, copyright 1997. confirms this previous comment . Our speciman came from the Bermuda rose collection at Florida Southern College.
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HelpMefind has two files:
1. ‘Belfield (Bermuda mystery rose)’ – listed as a synonym of the pink R. chinensis Jacq. (also syn R. indica L.)
2. And “Belfield Rose” - listed as a synonym of the red Slater’s Crimson China.
The 1999 reference under ‘Belfield (Bermuda mystery rose)’ from Mr. Scanniello
seems to be not quite right.
The 1988 reference under “Belfield Rose” from Mrs. le Rougetel seems to have it right.
Possibly the ‘Belfield (Bermuda mystery rose)’ should be deleted and the 1999 reference moved to the Slater’s Crimson China file?
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Julia Lester Dillon in her article Old and New Roses in South Carolina, American Rose Annual, 1940,
p31. The Old Blush Bengal is often called the Monthly rose because it blooms almost every month in the year. The deeper pink Daily rose opens its fresh flowers with each morning's sun.
p32. At the winter home of Mrs. Walter C. White, of Cleveland, Ohio....along the broad grass walk, 300 feet from the west portico, the 'Old Blush' and the Daily roses are planted at regular intervals.
Would the Daily roses mentioned be 'Slater's Crimson China'?
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8 NOV 11 by
jedmar
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The Daily Rose was Rosa chinensis Jacq.
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Thanks Jedmar. I've put it in as a 1940 reference in R. chinensis Jacq.
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