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Discussion id : 20-651 most recent 12 FEB 08 SHOW ALL

Initial post 31 JUL 07 by Tesseract

I am in Zone 5 – Great Lakes area. Has anyone had luck with these outside of the West Coast (i.e., one-day shipping from Oregon)?
I received two own-root climbers in May 2007. They were sickly upon arrival: plants stressed; the leaves were wilted and yellow. I had the company send me a replacement for one of them in June. Still sickly and still only 12-to-18-inches high (and this is July 31)! Maybe it is the company?
Problems not limited to the two "The Impressionists" received. I had the same problems with all other varieties. "Eden" (one) still less than 12-inches high, and dying. "Portlandia" (two); and even the "hardy" New Dawns. I received all in stressed and sickly condition. Even after communicating such ot the company and had three replaced, received replacements in same (or even worse) condition: half the leaves yellow and wilted upon arrival, and still only 12-to-18-inches high!
It is not my soil or location either -- I prepared organic, very-rich soil for the flower bed (three-feet deep where the roses are planted). In addition, I received a "Red Eden" from another company, planted in the same location. It is healthy, happy, and growing very well (already four feet tall -- and I received it in mid-June: a month after the others from the first company). Unfortunately, the "Portlandia" and "The Impressionist" may only available from the first company.
Although it is late in the season (and still under the 90-day waranty from the first company) I ordered another "Eden" from the second company (to replace they sick and dying one that was sent from the first company). What a shame. If the two "The Impressionists" do not improve (which is unlikely, since it is already mid-summer), I will have to order different varities next season (from another company).

Reply #1 of 3 posted 19 AUG 07 by Unregistered Guest

I bought 2 Impressionist this year at the same time.They are healthy but small about 2 and a half feet.I transfered them into 15 gallon pots after I got them.They ve even had a few blooms.I wonder if the mail system took to long to deliver them.I remember when I got mine in the little boxes wrapped in paper.Its possible they had a rough shipping but this is the first time I bought from them so I dont know.Mine are doing well though.Its such a lovely rose I bet your just sick about it.

Reply #2 of 3 posted 8 FEB 08 by bob diller

In defense of the company of which you speak, I have ordered from them for years. Knowing they are on the opposite side of the country, I always pay for express shipping, or the plants can be up to 2 weeks in transit in horrible shipping conditions (i.e. hot trucks, ice cold cargo holds of planes and got knows what other conditions shipping companies dish out to their leafy passengers). These plants you are buying are own root band size plants. Its states this in their catalog and on their website. You get what you order. Also, I'm happy to have gotten many virus free roses from them. It is hard to get many antique roses that do not have rose virus. I'm happy to have gotten a healthy and robust Reve d'Or from them, as most in commerce are infected with rose mosaic virus, weather they show symptoms of it or not...sometimes the only symptom is lack of vigor. The company you ordered from has heat treated roses and grown virus free stock to use as mother plants to propagate from. I know of few other places that have taken the time and money to ensure you get healthy virus free plants. Just know when you order all the way across country, pay for express shipping, or you may as well not order at all because its not the nursery sending half dead plants, its the darn shipping companies doing it to them.

Reply #3 of 3 posted 12 FEB 08 by Unregistered Guest

Howdy BD,

Don't know what you meant by "you get what you paid for" -- hope you weren't calling me cheap. I was very clear with the company as to the condition of the roses that I expected and that I wanted to avoid "shipping shock". I asked the company for overnight shipping, which they said was not necessary -- quoting their years-of-experience. I had it shipped express (the express that they offered (2-day-shipping). In both scenarios, it was I who had to follow-up to monitor the situation. The first time, they shipped over a holiday-weekend and the roses WOULD have remained in storage for an additional two days if I had not been proactive enough to "force the shipping as paid" (they arrived on Saturday on the third day). The second time, I again had to monitor the shipping myself. Regardless, the conditiion of the roses was NOT only because of three-day shipping. So, I do INDEED have a right to comment as I did because I did NOT try the "cheap approach" of "getting what you pay for". I was very clear up-front about the condion expected and my willingness to pay for overnight shipping. This is even more true because I receive roses from other companies (e.g., Roses Unlimited in SC). There is, in fact, a real difference as to the condition of the roses sent and the packaging. Every rose that I received from Roses Unlimited were packed with great care, individually boxed, in larger boxes that gave pleanty of inside space so the roses were not stressed -- and WITHOUT disease. Granted, you and I had different experiences, but that does not automatically mean that I did something wrong and you did something right. It may just mean that the company is inconsistent in its packing and shipping process.

Discussion id : 21-784 most recent 3 OCT 07 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 3 OCT 07 by Unregistered Guest

Hi there, I planted a tiny specimen of "The Impressionist" in June to climb a pillar on my wrap-around porch. It is growing beautifully and I have had four lovely blooms already. I want to plant another rose on the opposite side of the porch and I am trying to decide whether to plant another "Impressionist" or another rose. I have two reasons for hesitancy about another Impressionist. One, is that the blooms, while gorgeous, bleach out to flesh pink by the second day and the petals drop on the third day. The other is that I don't know what height to expect it to attain in my Western Maryland zone 6 (bordering 5, but in a full-sun,south-facing position). I would like at least one of my pillar roses to attain 12 feet (ideally up to 20 feet) and arch around the porch roof. And while I think the impressionist blooms are pretty even when bleached out, I would like at least one plant to have stronger colored blooms in the same or complementary colors (I love the pink/yellow/orange salmon blend)... something that wouldn't bleach out quite as much but wouldn't have as strong a coloration as, say, "Joseph's Coat" (which isn't tall enough anyway... ) If I knew that my Impressionists would grow to at least 12 feet and would bloom so prolifically when mature that I would often have a mix of strong-colored blooms mixed with the paler one, I would get another Impressionist. Any opinions from anyone experienced with this rose? Also, any opinions about tall climbers that are warm pink, gold, salmon or a blend of these that would complement "the Impressionist beautifully? I am especially fond of blooms with a soft, old-fashioned shape, but it is not easy to find in this coloration! Does the rose I want exist? Thanks for any opinions! Cynthia

Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 OCT 07 by HMF supporting member

Cass

Cynthia, you've noted something that bothers me about many roses in this color group. They fade to the ugliest white after turning pink in a nanosecond. I've almost given up on apricot roses. You have the additional problem of hardiness that I don't have to contend with.

Compassion is an option. I see Great Lakes Roses sells it. (I tend to use northern nurseries as a gauge of hardiness.) That is a wonderful climber in subtle shades, vigorous and an excellent rebloomer.

For health, hardiness, vigor, rebloom and good color, Autumn Sunset, the golden buff sport of Westerland is my favorite. I know it is almost a single and not the frilly, old-fashioned form of The Impressionist. Just a good, sturdy rose that will take your winter, rebloom and start and end the same color. Westerland is just a bit too orange for my taste....but it can be beautiful. See this shot on HMF: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pics.php?l=2.6065&nr=57372

Good luck.

Discussion id : 11-918 most recent 18 APR 06 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 18 APR 06 by Anonymous

THIS ROSE IS AMAZING, ITS ONLY FAULT IS NOT MUCH OF A REPEAT IF ANY LATER IN THE SEASON, BUT EVEN IF IT ONLY HAD ONE FLOWER FOR ONE DAY I WOUDL STILL GROW IT, THE FRAGRANCE AND COLORS ARE AMAZING. MY MOM HAS THIS ROSE AS WELL AND HER'S HAS MORE OF A REPEAT THAN MINE, BUT MINE HAS MORE OF A PROLIFIC FIRST FLUSH THAN HER'S SO ITS GIVE OR TAKE. I LOVE THIS ROSE AND I LOVE THE CLEMENTS, THEY HAVE THE BEST ROSE GARDENS AND SHOP AND THE MOST HELPFUL STAFF EVER. I'M LUCKY ENOUGH TO LIVE IN PORTLAND SO THE TRIP IS A SHORT ONE, BUT IF I LIVED ELSEWHERE AND I WAS COMING TO PDX FOR ANY REASON, I WOULD PLAN A TRIP TO THE GARDENS TO BASK IN THE BEAUTY OF IT ALL. BRING ALLEGRA, HA HA.

Discussion id : 8-341 most recent 6 MAY 05 SHOW ALL

Initial post 2 MAY 05 by Karen Mickleson, Ph.D.

Reply #1 of 3 posted 4 MAY 05 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

You may have a "sport" of the rose. I would suggest you contact the breeder. Smiles, Lyn helpmefind.com	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 4 MAY 05 by Karen Mickleson, Ph.D.

Here's the Heirloom listing for The Impressionist: http://heirloomroses.com/cgi/browse.cgi?page=item&cat=13&item=240 Note the height: 9-12'	REPLY

Reply #3 of 3 posted 6 MAY 05 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

Thank you for taking the time to contact us about this. We had this plant listed as both a larged-flowered climber and a shrub. We have removed the shrub classification.	REPLY