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One or more site guests believe this photo is incorrectly labeled or inaccurate !
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Queen Elizabeth does not exhibit this colouring or form. Foliage appears incorrect as well. I highly doubt a sport.
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I am not so sure this is an incorrect photo of Queen Elizabeth. It could possibly be a sport of QE. I think the photo shows a very beautiful flower, and if it is a sport of QE and retains all the good qualities of the pink QE with the exception of the color, this could potentially be a great rose. I hope the photographer/owner of this rose tries to discern whether this is a sport and if it is, PLEASE try to propagate it so that more people could enjoy it. There are plenty of places to find out information about rose sports and most all master rosarians would be glad to help get this rose propagated. I am not what I would call a master rosarian, but I am not a novice by any means, and I do know how to propagate roses from cuttings of the mother plant. I would be glad to help if needed!!!
John
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Megan, I'm fairly certain this is not 'Queen Elizabeth'. Either you received the plant incorrectly labeled or you've got a color sport. If your plant is new it's quite likely incorrectly labeled. It looks to be a lovely rose whatever it is.
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#1 of 6 posted
13 JUL 09 by
Megan
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Hi Robert,
Thanks for your comment- I was starting to wonder that myself but a lot of my other roses seem to be darker than normal (see my pictures under Evelyn Fison and Blue Moon for examples, just added today). I think it might be something to do with the soil in that area of my garden, because other roses I have in other areas of the garden aren't darker than normal (see my picture under Peer Gynt). I've read a number of different explanations for colour variations due to the environment. Is this officially accepted or is it generally assumed to be incorrectly labelled or a sport as you said? I'd welcome your expertise in the matter!
Regards, Megan
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Hi Megan, yes, soils can make a huge difference as to color of foliage and blossom.
Your photos of 'Evelyn Fison' and 'Blue Moon' do offer color unusual for those cultivars but at least to my eye they are still in the range of normal.
In my over 40 years experience I've never seen Queen Elizabeth close to the colors in your photo. I'd seek out other growing QE in your area and see if you can make a comparison. I'll be very surprised if what you have there is QE.
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Hello MEGAN and ROBERT! Hope you are doing well.
My name is Mariano R. Saviello, I am 25 years old and I have recently got my degree in Biotechnology in the National University of Quilmes (Buenos Aires, Argentina). I am also working in a Laboratory of Molecular Microbiology in the same University doing a research in Microbiology that will be part of my thesis, when I get my master in Biotechnology in a few months and, as all the HelpMeFind members I love roses. Since I was a little child I love all kind of plants, but roses are my favourite. My grandfather Nilo Sánchez was also a rose grower and used to have a huge collection of roses in Necochea, a seaside town almost 500 kilometres from Buenos Aires. In that rose collection we grew for many years a rose that he bought in the 60´as ´Queen Elizabeth´ and it was exactrly the rose MEGAN shows us in the picture uploaded. He has looked for this ´Queen Elizabeth´ for several years-he is now 85 years old- in many nurseries from Argentina but the only rose he could find was the pink ´Queen Elizabeth´know by everybody. What´s a surprise when we both discovered that the ´Queen Elizabeth´he once bought over 40 years ago (the same rose MEGAN has uploaded) is none other than ´Rose Gaujard´. Such a coincidence, I think my grandfather and MEGAN have both the same incorrectly labeled ´Queen Elizabeth´.
My warmest wishes from B.A, Mariano (xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com.ar)
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Mariano, you're right. Megan's rose certainly resembles 'Rose Guajard'. I thought it looked very familiar. I think you may have solved the riddle.
I think it's fascinating that we are having a conversation over three continents. There's nothing like international cooperation!
Best wishes and thanks for your detailed information. You are fortunate to have come from a family of horticulturists.
Good luck with your Master's thesis. May you have many wonderful years of roses ahead of you. I also took my interest in gardening from my Grandfather.
Robert
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14 JUL 09 by
Megan
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Thank you, Mariano! It does look exactly like it! I agree with Robert that it's cool that this can happen when we're in different corners of the world. And I only just posted it yesterday! I looked up Necochea and it's gorgeous. Best of luck with your thesis! Regards, Megan
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Sorry about my absence: it has been also a pleasure for me to be in touch with both of you. And as you both have said, it is great that thanks to Internet and this site we can be in touch, still living in three different continents, sharing the same interests!
At your entire disposal from Buenos Aires, Mariano.
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