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"Benny Lopez"  rose photo courtesy of member mashamcl
Discussion id : 134-794
most recent 15 OCT 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 OCT 22 by SallyBordi
I would like an explanation from Heirloom of the photo you referred to as well as a photo of Highfeild which looks like an entirely different rose as well.
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Discussion id : 71-420
most recent 6 MAY 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 MAY 13 by Tessie
I think your comments hint at a problem that I fear may be widespread--that someone sees a rose/finds it and believes it looks like a particular historical rose and thus declares it is that rose. Then the rose enters commerce, maybe *multiple* roses enter commerce through different channels, as that historical rose and then we have a mess. Which rose(s) have good provenance and which don't? Which are found roses that only bear a slight resemblance to an old rose? Which nurseries got their stock from a source that can be traced all the way back to the breeder, and which ones have major gaps in their provenance?

It may come to pass that some actually prefer a rose as a "better clone" to what a different nursery has, when in fact that "better clone" isn't even the rose it is supposed to be!

Melissa
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 MAY 13 by mashamcl
Melissa,

Left to enthusiasts and volunteers, rose identification is bound to be an imprecise science. The problem you are describing, of several roses impersonating one (or, indeed of the same rose masquerading as several different varieties) is well-known, and will probably persist for awhile. In this case, identification has to be made more difficult by the sheer number of pink and purple HPs that used to exist :). Also, BL might turn out to be "bird drop", and therefore an entirely new rose. All in all, I am glad someone is willing to move things forward and offer suggestions.

Masha
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