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Poseidon  rose photo courtesy of member StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
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Initial post 30 AUG 17 by Lavenderlace
These blooms look stunning!
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 30 AUG 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
After 8 hours in full-sun & hot & dry & over 90 F, I thought to myself, "blooms look pretty good crispy-dark-blue !!" In its 3rd year as own-root, Poseidon has deeper root thus less wilting in hot sun. Blooms last long in the vase, up to 4 days if cut in buds.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 30 AUG 17 by Lavenderlace
I'm probably not the best one to ask since most of them don't have my favorite fragrances here! One exception for my nose is Savannah.

We just dug up and moved two 6 feet tall ones today and I tried to check out the roots for you. My helper thought that they were woody but I also saw lots of thick thread-like roots, though most seemed to grow down, not sideways. The canes at the bottom measured just a bit over 2 inches thick.

These aren't the first ones that we've moved but they are the biggest, since I only pruned two feet off of them yet again. BTW, they were only planted last fall and stayed evergreen during our record setting cold front (-3 windchills).

They did fantastic for me in sandy soil but were dismal in clay but I still wonder if it's because they don't like too much water and it was my fault? She is very inexpensive at Chamblees so might be worth an experiment as I've been curious to know if I judged her too harshly!

Beautiful shiny dark foliage, very bright blooms, always has lovely fragrance, extremely long-lasting on the bush and in the vase. The blooms do get flat at certain times of the year like a button which some people love. I prefer the way that they were in the spring, big and soft, and a softer color though.

Others that I've tried were First Crush, Earth Angel, Summer Romance, Beverly, etc., but I found Savannah to be the best performer here, just didn't expect them to get so huge!
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 31 AUG 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
THANK YOU for recommending Savannah. Those roots you described sound similar to Sutter's Gold: THICK but fibrous & hairy root, rather than a fat-stick like Dr. Huey (thrives in heavy clay). One spring I dug up 2 OWN-ROOT Austin roses to give away: Stingy Charles Darwin with light-green foliage & fibrous cluster root, versus easy-bloomer Scepter d'Isle with fat & woody & tap-root and dark-green & shiny foliage, very much like Evelyn.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 31 AUG 17 by Lavenderlace
My Evelyns are doing great here but I give them lots of water, unlike the Savannahs which usually get skipped.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 31 AUG 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
I'm posting a picture of Fortuniana rootstock (from weeksroses.com) in my garden photos. I wonder if your Savannah (drought-tolerant) root look like Fortuniana (fantastic in hot & dry & sandy Florida) ?? I dug up 5-year-own-root Evelyn one year to fix drainage, and the root was chubby & chunky & woody like Dr. Huey. My tip: heavy root prefers heavy & wet clay, lighter root prefers lighter & drier soil.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 31 AUG 17 by Lavenderlace
Yes, that's what I saw. Of course the center was filled with soil still but the rest looks the same, though bigger and thicker probably. I had pruned those Savannahs from 8' for the third time this year so it was a losing battle. Now she can be as big as she wants, though I still have more to move.

A lot of people like the scent of First Crush. She does great here in all kinds of soil and is a fraction of the size.

Those are very helpful pictures, thank you!
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 1 SEP 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
Wow !! 8' tall rose, that's what I need so bunnies can't eat in spring time. Thank you for the info. on First Crush's nice scent. My recently bought James Galway is getting big fast .. after the first 4 mild-scent blooms, the 5th bloom is amazing carnation & old rose scent, and becomes stronger as it ages in the vase. James got lots of Tomato-Tone (mostly chicken manure).in the planting hole, plus peaty-potting-soil mixed with my clay.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 1 SEP 17 by Lavenderlace
Oops, FC doesn't agree with my nose but a lot of people love her. Sorry for the confusion!
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