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Cliff's High Desert Garden Archival Dec, 2011 last updated 101812
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If you still grow Grace de Monaco would you be interested in taking and rooting cuttings for me? I would pay for each rooted cutting and also for shipping. Thank you. Margaret
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18 DEC 13 by
 Cliff
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I wish I could help you, but I'm afraid that I no longer grow Grace de Monaco, since moving to the low desert nearly two years ago. Sadly, this appears to be yet another wonderful rose that is no longer commercially available in this country. You might write to Jill Perry, curator of the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden, which is listed in HMF as having this rose, to see if the Heritage might consider rooting one for you.
Good luck.
Cliff
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I have desperately been serching for picture perfect for several years. I would like to use it in my breeding program again but to no avail can i find any sources for it . Do you by chance offer cuttings for sale or know of a source? Many thanks in advance.
Carl
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18 NOV 13 by
Cliff
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Sorry, but the listing for that garden is an archival listing as the garden was dismantled in 2011 and I no longer have Picture Perfect.
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16 OCT 12 by
Danty
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Hi Cliff,
We corresponded a few years back and I never got out to see your wonderful roses.
A question.
You have Penelope Keith listed on your Plants Grown List.
Do you still grow that one?
If so how does it perform for you?
If you still have it would it be possible to get some cuttings of it?
I'm also trying to locate cuttings of other McGredy miniatures: Firefly, Kaikoura and Wanaka.
Any help would be appreciated!
Very best,
Dan Tyson
Simi Valley
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#1 of 4 posted
17 OCT 12 by
Cliff
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Hi Dan. I'm sorry you didn't get out to see the garden before it was dismantled.
Penelope Keith was unfortunately part of an order imported from the U.K. that was delayed at customs and I ended up losing a significant number of plants in that order, including Penelope Keith. So, unfortunately, I never had the chance to observe this variety. I should have updated my HMF listing more frequently, but at a time when I was struggling to try to save the nursery and garden, that just wasn't top priority.
And I'm afraid I can't help you with the three others you mentioned.
All the best to you,
Cliff
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#2 of 4 posted
17 OCT 12 by
Danty
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Thank you, Cliff.
So are you completely out of the activity of growing any roses at all?
Dan
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#3 of 4 posted
17 OCT 12 by
Cliff
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No, Dan. I recently moved back to the low desert and have a much smaller property on which I'm in the process of establishing a much smaller garden. I'm no longer in the business of growing roses to sell, but I do hope to be able to maintain a home garden. It's listed on HelpMeFind as Cliff's New Low Desert Garden (2012).
Cliff
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17 OCT 12 by
Danty
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Great.
I look forward to your progress in the low desert.
Very best,
Dan
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Cliff, I'm trying to identify a rose you sent last summer, the label was R. foliolosa but it's not even close to the pink one you usually see with the "willow-like leaves". And the leaves are not like the photos of the Texas version found on wildflower.org http://www.wildflower.org/gallery/result.php?id_image=24303
The rose I have is 3/4 inch across, not fragrant (unless it's me) thorny, a climber/groundcover, and I think is has fall color, but not sure.
I've looked up the species roses you have listed at HMF, but nothing matches, either the boss is too decorative, or the leaves are too large, or not the right shape.
It needs quite a bit of water, but we had a hot dry summer as usual, and it was a transplant so I wanted to get it established. It's on a slope in full sun but light shade. Our shade is close to the woods so I wanted to be sure of what this rose was before it "got released into the wild".
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8 MAY 12 by
Cliff
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I'm afraid that I can't offer a lot of help with this one. It was purchased from ForestFarm in 2007 and although their plants did well here, there have already been a few other species roses from them that turned out to be mislabeled. Given that most species roses generally only bloom in the spring and with my focus on the nursery since moving up to the high desert, I simply wasn't able to spend time or focus attention on the species roses. So unless something really caught my eye for some reason, I'm afraid that chances are that I wasn't even able to confirm the identify of many of them. I'm really sorry about that; I clearly had more on my plate than I was able to handle.
Cliff
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8 MAY 12 by
Grntrz5
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Cliff, that's ok, I know you tried to send us all the correct roses-and I'd think that identification of species roses is best left up to those botanists!
Mix-ups at ForestFarm are probably what happened with the R. marschalliana that you sent as well. Their photo showed a polyantha like rose with numerous shingled petals in white and blush. As I was waiting for your plants to arrive, I did a fair amount of research, and everything pointed to a single white or blush once blooming rose in the R. canina group.
I like the R. marschalliana that you sent, I think you really did send the correct one, the light orange blossom scent is a surprise, and I can find the R. foliolosa from a native plants nursery down in Arkansas.
As for the unknown "mutt" that started this, I may even be wrong! Watch it be the real R. multiflora, not the more decorative, and fragrant 1940's hybrid version that was sold through extension agencies around here.
Thank you for your quick reply! Have a good afternoon!!!
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#3 of 9 posted
8 MAY 12 by
Cliff
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Thanks for your understanding. I know that the R nutkana I received from them was mislabled as well.
Cliff
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#6 of 9 posted
8 MAY 12 by
Grntrz5
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Cliff, your post on your mislabeled nutkana reminded me of the Schoener's Nutkana that you sent, I went out and checked on it. Finally it is showing some healthy growth, a good dozen new canes about 6 inches tall; there was one bloom earlier this spring; roots first.
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#7 of 9 posted
9 MAY 12 by
Cliff
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I'm very pleased to hear it! It's a wonderful rose.
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What about R. multiflora nana? The bush does have very multiflora stipules.
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8 MAY 12 by
Grntrz5
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Patricia, that is lovely, I looked at the Australian version; it's even nicer looking than our multiflora strains here in the midwest. This unknown has a very small bloom, 3/4 of an inch, and not fragrant. It doesn't have a pink coloring. I wish multiflora roses weren't so prone to Rose Rosette Disease, some of them would look lovely in the garden, the ones around here are very fragrant.
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Dear Grntrz5, You might have been looking at Jocelen's photo from across the ditch (the New Zealand strain) which shows pink. I have never seen the slightest trace of pink in my plant and being fairly confident of my identification, have just uploaded some snowy white photos of my plant into the R. multiflora nana file. My flowers are probably 3/4 of an inch. I have just been out to look for hips, but it must be a very tasty bush because all that was left were about three very shrivelled hips in the middle of the bush that the birds could not reach. Gwen Fagan has some excellent photographs of blooms, canes and hips in her book on page 227. I would add that my bush seems more upright than your prostrate-looking bush in your second photo.
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#9 of 9 posted
9 MAY 12 by
Grntrz5
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Woops. You have very clear shots of your multiflora nana for others to make that call with you. I'll have to take better pictures of the blooms, and leaves on my plant, mine just aren't detailed enough to sort through those various multiflora strains. Have a good evening Patricia.
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