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'Williamsburg' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 120-187
most recent 12 FEB 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 FEB 20 by DesertChildAZ
The description page describes this rose as being bred by Arthur P. Howard and introduced by the Great West Rose Co. and being a contrast x Queen Elizabeth, but I recently came across a news article from 1964 that suggests it is a rose bred by Bill Warriner when he was working at the Howard & Smith Nursery in Montebello. It also mentions that it's Queen Elizabeth x Henry Fonda. That article also suggests it was exhibited at the Exposition Park Rose Garden in Los Angeles and drew attention because of it's vigor and bloom size, which could last on a bush for 10 days. Assuming that rose garden still exists, it may be on display there as well. I'm happy to send a copy of the article if it helps. Let me know how and where to send/upload it.

Source: Los Angeles Times, 12 Jan 1964
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 10 FEB 20 by Patricia Routley
Send it exactly as you have done here with your comment and we will add it as a reference for ‘Williamsburg’. Add the page number, author and exact text.
And many thanks for your contribution DesertChildAZ. It is appreciated.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 10 FEB 20 by DesertChildAZ
I added images of that portion of the article itself. One full page and another of the specific page.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 11 FEB 20 by Patricia Routley
Thank you DesertChildAZ. I’ve typed it up and added the reference. I found a few other references and added them too. Also changed the breeder from Howard to Warriner. It is of interest that in the Patent, taken out by Howard, he says “The original plant was produced by me in 1955 using Contrast as the seed parent and Queen Elizabeth as the pollen parent.” I suspect the Patent office required the breeder to submit the patent, but the breeder was too busy out in the fields dabbing pollen and so Howard had to do the bookwork.
It really does need an American volunteer to do these American roses for HelpMeFind, but nobody volunteers, and so we muddle on.
Thank you again.
Patricia, in Australia.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 11 FEB 20 by DesertChildAZ
I'm happy to help any way I can. My other hobby is genealogy, so I'm a researcher by nature. I also have a full subscription to newspapers.com so I can look up old articles on different roses if it helps. Unless someone can send me a list of particular roses they want researched, I can otherwise do it randomly.
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Reply #6 of 5 posted 12 FEB 20 by Patricia Routley
Thank you DesertChildAZ. We love help. Anything at all that you come across and is of interest. Type it up exactly and add it as a Comment and I will add it as a reference the same day. Take a look at the references for ‘Williamsburg’ and you will get the picture as to what is needed. Eventually, if you are enjoying it, we can get you to add references directly on to HelpMeFind.

As to what particular rose? Well, there is the parentage of ‘The Fairy’. For instance, why was the parentage changed in 1986 for this 1932 rose:
1980. Modern Roses 8. The Fairy (Lady Godiva sport)
1986. Modern Roses 9. The Fairy (Paul Crampel x Lady Gay)
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