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'Lord Penzance' rose Reviews & Comments
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18 OCT 21 by
Plazbo
Out of a couple dozen OP seedlings flowering for their first time (~3 years), despite differences in foliage (some dark, some not, some with very serrated margins, some not) and differences in number of thorns (some very, some few)...every single flower is without a trace of yellow. Plant is strongly selfing (expected..if it weren't I'd expect at less some semi doubles given it's surrounded by doubles) but seedlings seem to ditch all signs of Harison's Yellow influence which may be interesting to someone. Always expected the seedlings to lean towards rubiginosa due to the meiosis but the consistent drop of yellow was a surprise to me.
It'll be interesting to see if Lady Penzance OP seed follow the same path given the higher pigmentation, probably not til next year though.
Ultimately don't recommend growing out Lord Penzance OP seed, the results aren't phenotypically exciting, may be interesting if checking their genotype was more accessible (come on future!) to see if anything has been jumbled up with the caninae meiosis. Just growing out deliberate crosses from now on.
Now to wait til next year or year after for the first deliberate crosses to start flowering.
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20 OCT 21 by
styrax
That's pretty interesting, and not what one would expect. Could you post some example of the seedling's foliage?
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20 OCT 21 by
Plazbo
Yeah, I was expecting at least a little yellow in some of them. It was a very anti climatic experience of "yay flower buds!" to "oh it's pink....and so is that one and the rest of them".
Of note, these are all from different plants and ones kept in 7.5 to 15ltr pots at my suburban house (still flowered, so experiment success), there's close to another 80 in the ground at my parents in a disused paddock (from that same 2017/2018 crop...and many many more from subsequent years...ugh digging up to cull 99.999% of them is going to be unfun). Even those have the same pink flowers from daily video calls (side note, apparently the density of fragrance is unpleasant).
Not many of them have spots but I kept them around as a possible indicator of higher foetida influence or general incompatibility or something...just a point of obvious difference that I thought may be worth seeing out....no difference in flower.
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