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'Cherub' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 30-184
most recent 8 OCT 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 SEP 08 by Patricia Routley
There are opinions that the 1923 Alister Clark rose 'Cherub' in commerce, is not the original rose.
This seems to be borne out by the class changing from the earlier wichuraiana to the later references to multiflora. My rose in Western Australia seems to closely resemble the ruffled petalled Burbank, 1932 'Apple Blossom'.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 7 OCT 14 by Jane Z
Interestingly the earliest references I've found to Cherub are both from WA newspapers, the first being in 1920, (prior to its release), where the rose was described as a pink multiflora!
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 8 OCT 14 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Jane.
The 1920 Western Mail reference was possibly sourced from another Victorian newspaper, but it has enabled us to put the date of 'Cherub' back further to <1920.

As for the 1924 Daily News reference, many of the descriptions for the roses are very similar to those from the Hazlewood's 1924 catalogue. It is possible that the journalist was having a sleepy day and typed in the colour description for 'Cherub' as "crimson, overlaid scarlet" which was almost the same as the "crimson, shaded scarlet" entry for the rose listed above 'Cherub' - 'Captain Kilbee Stuart'.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 8 OCT 14 by Jane Z
The 1920 item was a column, "A Woman's Melbourne Letter" written for the 'Western Mail'. The same story hasn't appeared in any of the mainstream Victorian papers.

I don't see how the date of introduction is affected, as I read it the story simply showed that the rose had been displayed & described as a multiflora prior to its commercial release.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 8 OCT 14 by Patricia Routley
Thanks. "A Woman's Melbourne Letter" makes it clear.
Bred <1920.
Introduced 1923.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 8 OCT 14 by Jane Z
yup that's wot i ment 2 LOL ...
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