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This is the best rose I have ever disliked. It is very floriferous, smells beautiful, has big blooms and is (by far) the most vigorous of all my roses. Heaps of basal breaks, and very little disease. Sadly the colour for me is quite dreadful - it starts out passable, looking like a gaudy second-rate "Peace'; but the flowers fade very fast so that the red edges become a blotchy pale tint of cerise and the yellow a washed out muddy cream. The overall appearance of the flowers is quite dull and too similar in hue to the new growth (bronzy green) so they get lost and look messy; and they clash a bit with the mature leaves (dark olive green). Some of the flowers pictured here look much brighter and cleaner than mine and make me envious. I wonder whether it is just my soil?
At any rate, I am giving it away. It is far to good a rose in every other respect for me to feel good about destroying it, but it continually tries to make me feel bad - flowers its heart out, trying desperately to make me happy! Can't keep a plant which makes me feel this conflicted!
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20 NOV 18 by
 Jay-Jay
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Thank You Zingiber. Maybe more people should tell or show, how a rose can look disappointing too, like You did.
I showed that for Pierre de Ronsard, or Eden in my last photos: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.4791.3&tab=36
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1 DEC 18 by
Zingiber
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I should mention that I garden on the East Coast of New Zealand, where the summers are hot, dry, and windy. We have had an exceptionally cloudy and wet spring this year, and the second flush just blooming on my SP is much better than any I have seen yet - the yellow is clearer, and the pink is restricted to the petal edges. I think the blotchy dull pink look SP gets must be a reaction to high UV, maybe similar to the way Double Delight turns red when exposed to sun. The plant itself sailed through our last summer (the hottest and driest on record) without any irrigation, so the heat tolerance of the bush is fine.
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My favourite rose. Flowers deep cupped (not flat for me as in the description) with reflexed lower petals, and almost perfectly quartered. Buds start out quite dark pink, and flowers open very light pink, aging through to a clean white. The fragrance is heavenly and exceptionally strong- my favourite of all roses. I suppose if I screwed up my nose it could be vaguely like aniseed, but really I can't compare it to anything.
Only bad point is the vigour. This rose is very slow growing and reluctant to make new basal breaks. Mine is grafted on multiflora, I believe. Despite this low vigour, it flowers at every chance it gets, and is surpisingly disease resistant. I have never seen black spot or powdery mildew on it, despite those being the worst diseases here in NZ. It does get a very small amount of rust, which is quite unusual here; most of my roses are entirely rust-free.
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The colour and fragrance of this are amazing, and it doesn't get mildew or rust; but it seems to be very susceptible to black spot in my garden, which disappoints me, since I bought it supposing it to be highly disease resistant.
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Bought this one on a whim (because of the fragrance) and I am very glad I did! The whole plant has a real character, a certain je ne sais quoi that always draws my attention.
The foliage is ornamental; the nicest of any modern rose I have seen. It is dark green, flat, rounded, held horizontally, and exceptionally shiny. The canes are very fat and strongly vertical. Vigour seems decent.
The fragrance is intense and sweet, so the description of 'moderate fragrance' seems off; the only thing I noticed was that it fades and simplifies with age - the flowers are very long lived for me, but only the freshly opened ones have a really jaw dropping smell. The colour is a light lavender pink that lightens towards white (but still looks clean and fresh) as the flowers age.
We had our record hottest summer ever last year - weeks of 30 degree days without reprieve, and no rain for three months, and this rose was not bothered in any way. I would say it is superlatively heat tolerant!
Only downsides I have noticed are a tendency to get black spot, and the repeat is quite slow. I don't spray much, so it is a mark of how much I like this rose that if see any BS I spray it!
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