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To me, it seems very similar to Belle de Crecy. To be honest, MUCH TOO similar.
I suspect it's the same rose, or maybe a slight colour variation. Anyone has opinion?
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15 MAR 09 by
 jedmar
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A question justified, because 'Belle de Crécy' in commerce and in gardens seems certainly not to be the original rose, but a misidentification from the 1940s. Maybe someone has both roses in the same garden and can comment.
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I have both.I bought belle de crecy and marie tudor(different selllers).planted them side by side.marie tudor turned out to be a second belle de crecy.it would be glorious if my boula de nanteuil turned out to be my third belle de crecy.almost makes me wonder whether I might have yet more belles de crecy lurking in my garden.
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Any updates on this rose? Have you moved it since then?
I read on other forums that many people have issues with it mainly a lot of blackspot, is it the same for you?
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L-am executat de mult,n-am reusit sa-l salvez.
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Perfect picture. I have had blooms just like this. This shows why Papa Meilland is the best fragrant red out there for warm climates and unmatched after almost 60 years.
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I love Papa Meilland!I would plant 10 if I had room.
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13 JAN 21 by
jedmar
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The Gallica 'Octavie' does not exist any more. This looks like 'Duchesse de Montebello'. Also 'Enchanteresse' is marketed as 'Octavie'
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well,loubert sell this rose as octavie...that beinG said,i tried to delete both pictures and i do not know how,maybe the admin can do it? update:done!
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14 JAN 21 by
jedmar
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Thank you! We will contact Jerome Chêne at Loubert to clarify the provenance and real name of his 'Octavie'
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