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This is listed as a found rose which isn't correct. From communication with Dr Yoshihiro Ueda a few years ago he informed me he introduced the Chinese ancient roses(Chun Shui Lu Bo,Jin Pin Fan Lu, Qin Lian Xue Shi, Si Chun, Sui Mei Ren, Tian Nu Guang, Ji Nang, Yin Ri He Hua) from Huaian Yueji Yuan(Huaian Rose Garden) in Jiangsu Province of China in 2002
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I wonder if this one is an old tea hybrid from the early 1900s colonial period that somehow wound up in the Chinese garden, or is there evidence of this hybrid existing in China before the 1800s?
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I don't understand why you would suppose this. There were hundreds of bred roses going back to before the Ming dynasty, mostly double and repeat blooming. somewhere I have an article mentioning around 60 varieties. What we class as Teas and Chinas were brought back to Europe in the late 18th century by Italian missionaries of which many were probably used by the French breeders. Nearly all of the earliest Teas died out, probably from not being hardy eneugh for the european (French) climate. Its pretty well documented that the Chinese were very fond of large double flowered repeating roses well before even the missionaries turned up. Unless someone can match this rose's characteristics to an existing HT, I can't agree with this hypothesis
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They were selling it locally. Smelled it. Zero scent. Ho hum :[
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Funny because scent is so variable on some roses. At the Dothan Area Botanical Gardens, I smelled this rose and it had a moderate, sweet scent. Not intense but definitely there.
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6 NOV 22 by
Rosieoh
I only recently noticed a fragrance in Plum Perfect. It is a young plant, only it’s second growing season in my garden, so I don’t know if it’s because it’s maturing, or the weather is cooler, or some other factor. I did sniff the blooms often, and was disappointed until now with fragrance. I would not describe it as a strong fragrance, but mild to moderate. The blooms are lovely, and the plant has been healthy in this area of high black spot pressure
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Palatine roses discontinued this rose because it was too popular. They were afraid that its poor plant quality and vigor and lack of disease resistance would turn off novices from growing roses. But what about us veterans that want to give it a try? Now it is no longer available in the USA.
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22 JAN 16 by
goncmg
There is also that photohopped pic of it circulating like everywhere. I bet Palatine was getting tired of handling complaints that the rose doesn't look in the actual garden as it does in that widely circulated picture. I mean, people buy those "rainbow colored rose seeds" on Ebay....so many people with good intentions are really misinformed and naïve with roses. I really don't understand why, either. On that note I heard a horror story of a novice grower who kept picking off the new growth on her spring plant. WHY? Because it was red and not green. Shaking my head.........
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#2 of 4 posted
26 APR 16 by
Buggy
And this is why I'm still sad. I've been looking for this plant for 3 years now here in the US. No luck. :(
And the search continues....
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26 APR 16 by
goncmg
Did you see, Buggy, that Roses Unlimited in South Carolina lists it?? The plant would be own root and not budded and if that nursery lists it that may or may not mean they actually have it on stock at this moment---they may need to propagate it. But that is some hope! Hit they "buy from" tab, find R U and hit their link to get to their website. I think you have to email or call for rose availability but they carry great (albeit own root) product. Hope this is good news!
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I received one from Roses Unlimited this spring. It’s proved to be a very decent garden rose, quality blooms, generous, well formed , good repeat. Held decent size and petal count in hot summer. I guess no one told it that it was supposed to be difficult and weak! Very pleasantly surprised, From a 1 gallon plant, it has probably bloomed more in 4 months than Snowfire did in 2 years, plus it’s not crazy with thorns. (And I liked Snowfire, just wished it bloomed more).
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This is a fantastic rose for hot and humid Northwest Florida (Panhandle). It is floriferous, vigorous and well scented. The yellow color holds up in the heat and disease problems are minimal. Highly recommended either own root or grafted onto Fortuniana.
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