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Available from - Fraser Valley Rose Farm BC Canada
https://www.fraservalleyrosefarm.com/?s=redwood+empire
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Available from - Fraser Valley Rose Farm BC Canada
https://www.fraservalleyrosefarm.com/?s=redwood+empire
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I purchased what was labeled as a Prairie Sunset bush at a reputable nursery about 6 weeks ago. However, its blooms don't look anything like the pictures of Prairie Sunset posted by others on this site. They do however look like Prairie Sunrise, another Buck rose that I happen to have as well. Has anyone seen Prairie Sunset blooms that looks like these, or can anyone assert with some confidence that this is Prairie Sunrise instead?
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#1 of 3 posted
23 JUL 06 by
Wendy C
I don't grow either Prairie Sunset or Sunrise. With that said, have you contacted the nursery to see if they know about a mix up? Sometimes they discover and identify mislabled plants, and all you have to do is call. Also if you grow Prairie Sunrise, you are good position to compare them and make a determination for yourself. Look at all aspects of the rose. If they match chances are good you have PSunrise. Best of Luck |
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#2 of 3 posted
24 JUL 06 by
smoner4
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Thanks, I will try contacting the nursery, and otherwise keep an eye on both plants.
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Those are Prairie Sunrise's foliage and bloom form, but they look rather pale, which can happen if they're very young or in extreme heat.
Prairie Sunset is a definite bicolor, even if they are washed out. They will still be a bicolor, and it would have foliage different than in your photo.
To me, it looks like the nursery mixed the names up on your order. It happens in a lot Buck roses, because a lot of the names are similar. I have helped correct some nurseries. It happens in other roses, too. The Flower Carpet series are often mis-tagged at big box stores, because they get mixed up in the fields before they bloom. Or the cuttings get mixed up in production. Its really bad because similar colors can result in different sized plants, which messes up landscape designers/architects plans.
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Does anyone have experience with this rose in the shade?
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Some beautiful old roses have become weak from constant propagation and Tropicana is one of them as now this rose is very prone to blacks spot ( unless you spray weekly) As most roses will complain in the shade and not grow well, I think you will find that Tropicana will not do well and be very prone to disease.
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Old Rosarian I totally agree and understand what you mean by over propagating. I had the good fortune to find a 35-40 year old Peace bush and was able to send budwood to Steve Singer and he sent me back 4 very lovely new "old" bushes. My Peace roses are so much better than the modern ones you find all over the place now that you might not even realize it is a Peace rose. The colors are much more intense as is the sweet fragrance and the disease resistance is 110% better. Even this year-2009-where blackspot was so rampant my Peace roses stayed almost completely clean and were just plain gorgeous. I also have a daughter of one of these four given to me by a friend who took budwood from my new "Old" bush and budded it to multiflora. This rose too is super as well.
Now the question is WHERE CAN I FIND A TROPICANA ROSE THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROPAGATED TO DEATH?? Has anyone here on HMF got a 25-30 year old Tropicana they would be willing to send budwood from so I can get a good bush of Tropicana?? I will gladly pay for all expenses and/or do some swapping if I currently grow something you would be interested in having???
Thanks so much,
John Moody
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15 OCT 12 by
mtspace
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I saw Tropicana in Somerset NJ in an AARS test garden, zone 6b. It grew a little to the west of a huge elm tree, a magnificent thing that probably cast shadow on Tropicana until about 10:00 or 11:00 each day. After that it had clear sky. My guess is that it had six or seven hours of sunlight at the peak of summer. In that garden where roses were pampered to within an inch of their lives, Tropicana was by far the worst looking hybrid tea rose: it was tall, spindly, touched by blackspot despite aggressive spraying protocols, partly defoliate, almost chlorotic: sad looking. The blossoms were faded and drab. By contrast, Peace, some eighty feet to the south and shaded by another tall elm tree by about the same amount looked great. Broadway, and Tiffany shared the same kind of light. Broadway did fine. Some years Tiffany did, too.
If I were to grow it, I'd give Tropicana as much light as possible. But I would not cut down a good elm tree to do it.
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Steve......
I inherited a Tropicana rose when I purchased my house. Mrs. J was in her 90s, so the rose had not had good care for many years. Yes, it is virused and is growing in nutrient poor soil. My guess is that this budded rose was planted shortly after it was introduced in 1962, which makes it about 50 years old.
With rejuvenation pruning over several years, the plant has come back to its full glory. It is a vigorous and productive rose with zero disease problems in my no spray garden in the mountains of northern California. I've posted a couple of photos to the Tropicana rose page on HMF.
The blooms stand up to the high summer temps and the rose has had no die back due to the cold temps in winter. It does get full sun all day in what I call my heat pit of a rose garden and simply thrives.
For me, this is a rose that requires normal watering and feeding and is virtually a no-care rose that just keeps on keeping on.
Smiles,
Lyn
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