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'ORAvolmon' rose Reviews & Comments
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Ora 72-09 appears to have an additional name according to the site "Promesse de Fleurs." (No reference to other code name from Orard.)
"The Kazatchok Rose ® (Ora 72-09) was recently introduced to the market by the Orard Rose Nurseries, a family business located in Feyzin, near Lyon. It is classified as a modern hybrid tea rose, as evidenced by the turbinated shape of its flowers. Niharika is an Indian name evoking the fine veils of dew that momentarily veil misty mornings."
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#1 of 3 posted
5 days ago by
 jedmar
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The Kazatchok Rose is listed as ORAgrapar on our link to the Promesse de Fleurs site and is deep pink. No mention of Ora 72-09, which is 'Niharika' (second part of your quote)
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promessedefleur.ie is a vender. I unfortunately cannot paste a link to the quote above. Note spelling: is a singular "de fleur"
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#3 of 3 posted
4 days ago by
jedmar
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The company is named Promesse de fleurs (singular promis and plural flowers). It has webseites ending in .ie and .com
promessedefleurs.ie/
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I was trying unsuccessfully to research the pedigree of ORAvolmon, and only found the parentage given here.
Not intending to dispute the pedigree, but I am curious as to the source, and reasons for the assumption that Delbard's mauve rose, the 1970 "Vol de Nuit" might be the parent as opposed to the deep pink 2010 Reuter rose by same name. I could well imagine a good deal of cross-pollination between the two French hybridizers and their newest offerings, and (perhaps due to my ignorance) would be tempted to assume Orard might have worked with the newer, fragrant, award-winning parent, and not the 40 year older varietal with its "older HT baggage". (ORAvolmon is purported to have good health.)
Thanks in advance
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#1 of 4 posted
18 JAN by
jedmar
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As mentioned, it was only an assumption. The main reason in hindsight was probably that
- the Reuter rose was not released befoe 2014
- the Delbard rose was successfully as a parent for several cutivars between 1990-2010
Unfortunately, the source for the parentage as listed in 2016 does not seem to have been recorded.
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I added this rose. My apologies for not adding more detail at the time.
I keep a diary and my notes on August 28, 2016 say (in part):
Intro Texas Rose Venture, 2015. Japan.
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No apologies warranted, Patricia! All of your work is muchly appreciated.
But am I to understand then that the naming of the parent is correct, but the exact identity is very much in question?
I might try to use this in some breeding, and perhaps any offspring might give some insights, assuming success
Thanks!.
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I feel sure that I entered the parentage from a Japanese website which is probably why I did not add the reference. (Orard in their website talks of an agent in Japan, but does not name them as far as I can see).
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Initial post
1 JUN 23
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* Posted by unregistered site guest: Pending HMF administrative review. *
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I snagged Shirleys Bouquet early this spring as a body-bag at Wal-Mart. You'd never know it started life in less-than-ideal conditions. It has grown vigorously, more than any of the other bagged roses I picked up. I've been impressed with the vigor mostly. I've only had a couple of blooms open so far, but they weren't too great because it got SLIGHTLY frosty when they were opening and caused some browning/wonky petals. So, the next round of blooms should tell the tale. But, looking forward to it. I don't usually grow white roses, so we will see!
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