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5 JAN 10 by
 jedmar
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Could this be a Bourbon? Have a look at the VOC components in the reference and compare them to those of Mme Isaac Pereire. On the other hand, the DMMB content is pointing to Tea, rather than China, combined with a European OGR.
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Much has been written lately on the possibility that many of the recently discovered chinese roses are hybrids of european forms. Many of the so called european roses probably had their origins in china, many roses were exported from china at least 1000 years ago, can we really be sure that damask perpetuals didn't originate there. Recent discoveries there are incredibly exciting mixed with some despair at the amount of the gene pool that has been already lost. Please try reading:
"A Study on the History of Chinese Roses from Ancient Works and Images"
by Guoliang Wang
at http://www.actahort.org
This gives a taste of potentially what is there
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#2 of 5 posted
8 JAN 10 by
jedmar
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Very interesting article, indeed! I also believe we must discard the story of the 4 "stud" chinas on which all modern roses are based. Wherever we look, be it centifolias, damascenas or bourbons, there are multiple indications of sources in the East.
Considering the current accelerated development in China, it is vital that the old cultivars in the country are collected and propagated at various locations, as local nurseries will first probably concentrate on the more lucrative cut flower business.
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Is there any way to access this article without being charged an access fee by Actahort?
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#4 of 5 posted
8 JAN 10 by
Cass
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Send me a private message.
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#5 of 5 posted
8 JAN 10 by
kai-eric
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it would indeed be interesting to know the whole story.
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