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John, eight years down the track, do you have any more thoughts on this rose? I gather it may have come from Peter Beales, as his 1985 and 1993 references mention “blush pink”.
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The rose came from Walter Branchi in 2001. I believe he obtained it from Fineschi who obtained most of his teas from Sanguerhausan in the mid 20 century. I think this rose is probably the true Mme de Tartas. I obtained a Mme de Tartas from Beales around 2005 which was incorrect, I can't remember what it was. This is one of the few Teas we took with us when we moved. Unfortunately we are unable to access our old collection as we are in a legal dispute with the purchasers of our property
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Thank you John,
After seeing a strong similarity this autumn between “Isabel Smith” and ‘Comtesse de Labarthe’, I am looking at the possibility of the Australian foundling “Isabel Smith” being ‘Madame de Tartas’.
I feel that it was quite likely that Bernede may have used his 1857 ‘Comtesse de Labarthe’ in the parentage for his 1859 ‘Mme de Tartas’,
(I am a bit confused at the provenance of your rose, the caption reading “ 20 years ago from the UK”.
But your comment says Sangerhausen-> Fineschi-> Branchi-> Hook.)
I don’t think so clearly these days, and would love to know why you think your creamy rose is probably the true ‘Mme de Tartas’.
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