-
-
|
Maybe You'll just have to be patient until this rose is settled/established. I am able to see upright canes on Your photo.
In our garden 5 bud-grafted specimens and all tend to grow upright.
It has to be treated as a medium shrub (up to one meter). The flowers can get very heavy: Some stay upright, some nod a little and that's not a bad thing in our sea-climate.
|
REPLY
|
|
Thank you, jay-jay, now my Sharifa is in its 2nd year, stems are stronger, and less nodding. I like its fragrance, cannot find any rose that smells like Sharifa.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#2 of 12 posted
15 JUN 16 by
 Jay-Jay
|
Soapy, like a kind of soap from my Youth 55 years ago, with real and non-chemical scents, but a little bit sharp or peppery, if You like.
Today "I fell backwards", when I put a rose of Papa Meilland under my nose. Its fragrance is amazing!
|
REPLY
|
|
I didn't know that Papa Meilland smells that good !! I grew Mirandy, strong fruity scent. Firefighter (Hacienda) is too much of a woman's perfume. I like French Romantica roses' scent. Betty White is nice scent, but not as strong as Dee-lish. I like Dee-lish so much I bought a second one !!
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#4 of 12 posted
15 JUN 16 by
Jay-Jay
|
If You don't mind the flaws of Papa Meilland and maybe once in while spray sulfur (or liquid manure made from Equisetum and Nettle), it is a very rewarding rose as for huge, dark, velvety-red flower with an amazing complex and strong scent. It will blow You of Your feet!
|
REPLY
|
|
Jay-Jay: What's liquid manure? I would love to see that info. in Organic rose forum (KBW 9b is a frequent poster, same with me". Google "organic rose growing" and you'll see that forum .. there's a discussion on compost tea, and I would love to learn about liquid manure. Things posted in Organic rose forum are googled easier than things posted in HMF. Jay-jay: you have lots of wisdom and experience in growing roses .. and many organic-growers will benefit from your sharing, when they google for info.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#6 of 12 posted
15 JUN 16 by
Jay-Jay
|
Easy: Just put a whole lot of squashed Equisetum and Nettles(without seeds) into water in a container or bucket with airtight lid, maybe add some fern-leaves (and maybe lava-powder/meal to prevent too much stench) and let that rot or if You prefer ferment that for at least two weeks and stir regularly.
Pour it through a sieve/strainer, when You want to use it and dilute it 1:5 with water.
Then spray it over the leaves (leave-fertilizer) and the whole plant.
In case of bad Blackspot and or (powdery-)mildew, you might use a stronger concentrate... or add a few onions and some garlic into the fermenting brew/concoction in the "cauldron" for extra sulfur.
If You want to share this on an organic forum, You're welcome to do so.... and maybe mention/point-out HMF
I'll keep on posting on HMF, but feel no need to enter/join multiple fora. In real-life I share/delegate my knowledge/skills with those who want to learn and use that/them too.
|
REPLY
|
|
Have you tried Oklahoma? That one has a truly delicious scent.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#8 of 12 posted
16 JUN 16 by
Jay-Jay
|
It is still on my wishlist... but it is recommended for 7b-10b. Will maybe freeze to death in the erratic winters we have.
Its Climbing sport might be an option, but hard to get.
|
REPLY
|
|
Thank you, Jay-jay, for that info. on liquid manure. Yes, I will post that info., and refer / credit to you in HMF. Oklahoma is widely sold here (zone 5a) at local stores. It smells like lychee fruit ... similar to Double Delight but much stronger. Dave and Deb Boyd (zone 4/5a) grows Oklahoma grafted on Dr. Huey, the dog broke one branch, so they stuck that into the ground, and got an own-root Oklahoma even more vigorous and blooms more than the grafted.
A friend gave me a cutting of Oklahoma, I stuck in a cup of rain water and forgot about it. Two weeks later, it sprouted many roots in the cup of water. I gave that away, I want more petals in red-rose, so I bought Munstead Wood.
|
REPLY
|
|
Oklahoma doesn't smell like lychees to me. It's more like Mr. Lincoln, but with some extra notes that are hard to describe. Sort of earthy, in a very good way. A richer and heavier scent to match the darker colour.
Interesting that it grows so well from cuttings. How is it for general health in your area?
|
REPLY
|
|
Oklahoma looked good in a pot at the local store, much less blackspots than other roses, but quite thorny. Our soil is alkaline so the fruity scent is strong.
|
REPLY
|
|
Ok. I haven't actually grown Oklahoma myself yet (have only seen it in a nursery).I was a bit concerned since it shares the same parentage as Mr. Lincoln. Although Lincoln is as tough as old boots in my climate, it does have a tendency to defoliate every so often if not sprayed all the time. This doesn't stop it heading for the sky, but does result in a bush that is even more of a scarecrow than it otherwise would be.
The Meilland 'Peace' that is growing between my two Lincolns seems significantly more resistant to BS than they are. It gets some, but not nearly as badly, despite all three only being sprayed very occasionally.
There's also a Delbard 'Soeur Emmanuelle' in the bunch, which seems to be the most resistant to BS of the lot. I think it'd be fine growing that one with no spraying at all, but it gets a bit when the others do.
This is all in a nominal Zone 10, with around 1600mm/63" of annual rainfall, on amended acidic clay-based soil derived from the local volcano's output.
|
REPLY
|
|
