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'Jacques Cartier' rose Reviews & Comments
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I am seeing early references to the rose as ‘Marquise Virginie Boccella’, as in the 1844 L’Agriculteur Practicien (p. 183) and the 1844 Catalogo Generale dello […] Eugenio David (p. 32). In 1847, the Journal de la Société Nationale de France (p. 699) and that Society’s Séance Publique du Vingtième Anniversaire [etc.] (p. 113) also list it with the “Virginie.”
The Bulletin d’Horticulure de Picardie has it as ‘marquise Virginie de Borcella’ (p. 73) in its first Bulletin of 1844 (though as ‘Marquise de Boccella’ on p. 149).
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#1 of 1 posted
22 MAR 23 by
 jedmar
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Thank you for these references. Synonym and quotes added!
The full name of the Marquise enabled the addition of a note on her.
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The dating of the reference to C. Verdier offering 'Jacques Cartier' as unforced grafts, referring the quote to Revue-Horticole of May 16, 1889, is incorrect. The correct reference is to Revue-Horticole of May 16, 1869 (in other words, 1869, not 1889), and the page reference should be 181-182, not just 182.
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#1 of 1 posted
22 FEB 23 by
jedmar
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Thank you, corrected!
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14 DEC 21 by
BethJ
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Available from - Palatine Roses
https://palatineroses.com/product/jacques-cartier/?v=8d32a16ae306
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I got one, now where do I plant it?
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#2 of 2 posted
9 JAN 22 by
Lee H.
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Based on my first-year experience, I wouldn’t be too afraid of a shady position. Mine did exceptionally well in Z6, despite perhaps only 6 hours of sun at mid-summer.
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So, is this rose 'Jacques Cartier' or 'Marchesa Boccella'?
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#1 of 3 posted
12 MAR 21 by
pvaz
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That's what I've been asking myself... I wish I could tell them apart too.
I have four plants labeled as Jacques Cartier/ Marchesa Bocella (interchangeably) from two different nurseries. The one from nursery #1 only blooms once a year. The other three from nursery #2, were in constant bloom last summer.
They look exactly the same: same growth pattern, leaf shape and color, bloom size, fragrance and appearance. But they behave differently... I wonder if one is Marchesa Boccela and the other is Jacques Cartier?
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#2 of 3 posted
29 JUN 21 by
myd
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The roses you got from nursery #2 that are blooming constantly- I would love to know which nursery you got them from.
I have read that this rose does well in my area (Maryland) and that it blooms constantly here. I would like to buy it, but I am hesitant because I have read that some versions of this bush are only blooming once. I think if I knew someone had bought it at a certain place and it was a repeat bloomer, I would feel confidant that the rose I buy from the same place would also be a repeat bloomer.
Also - If anyone else out there is growing this rose near Maryland 7a I'd love to hear your experience with this rose.
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I bought a Marchesa Bocella from Connie Hilkins when her nursery was still open. What I have does repeat but not continuously. It is a lighter pink than that shown in the picture. I don't recall quite such extravagant sepals; I will have to check for that when the next bloom cycle occurs.
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