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Initial post 2 days ago by Pereirelover
Is this the Shrub or the climbing sport? I have the climbing sport from Loubert and she looks very similar
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Initial post 3 days ago by fogplants
Does anyone know where I can get this rose in the United States? I checked with Burlington and it is not part of their catalog.
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Initial post 3 days ago by odinthor
The statement in the Description section that it is a seedling of 'Triomphe du Luxembourg' is a misunderstanding of the 1836 Annales de Flore quote that it and two other roses are "children of the Luxembourg." The quote means that the three roses were raised (by Hardy) at the Luxembourg Palace gardens, not that they are seedlings from 'Triomphe du Luxembourg'.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 3 days ago by Nastarana
The HMF entry has this rose being raised by Francois Cels. Was it perhaps raised by either Hardy or Cels, and then introduced by the other?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 3 days ago by odinthor
Yes, that's how I construe the quote. Here's my translation: "“Flower medium-sized, charmingly colored pink with marbling; the bush blooms constantly and abundantly. These three roses [among which is ‘Cels Multiflore’], children of the Luxembourg, are being propagated in the establishment of the Cels Bros.”

"Children of the Luxembourg" essentially means "Hardy or one of his underlings raised them at the Luxembourg."
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 3 days ago by jedmar
Agreed, parentage removed. In the case of 'Archiduchesse Thérèse Isabelle', one of the three roses mentioned in the reference, the attribution to Barbot as breeder by Gravereaux seems questionable too.
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Initial post 3 days ago by GardenGal3
From your photo of Jeanne Lajoie, it looks like you may be growing it on a trellis. If so, did you espalier it 'formally'? If not, how did you train/prune it on the trellis?
Does it have fragrance? Repeat blooms? Disease resistance? Tolerance of shade?
Are you still growing it?
Thank you for any information.
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