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Initial post today by HeelinRoses
Is this rose (Bijou Corail) the same as another rose listed on HMF called 'Corail Gelee' ?
'Corail Gelee' was released in 2011 but in Japan. It says it was bred by Junko Kawamoto and is listed as a shrub.
'Bijou Corail' it says, was bred by Delbard - before 2011 and described as a floribunda - but it has 2 top Japanese awards!
Seems like a remarkable coincidence - they look so similar, have strong fruity fragrance and have very similar names and both appeared in 2011
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by jedmar
It is a coincidence. Japanese breeders often give French names to their cultivars. If you follow the links under 'Corail gelée you will see more photos, showuîng that Kawamoto's rose is more double and has ruffled petals.
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Initial post 25 NOV 23 by Steliosem06
Wonder how this compares to Munstead wood, they look pretty simmilar, munstead wood performed pretty badly in my zone 10b medditeranian climate
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by smashzen
did you by any chance planted it? I'm also mediterrinian climate
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Initial post 2 days ago by odinthor
Is the identity of the rose(s) shown in the various photos certain? This is not what I would anticipate for a rose which was described early on as "deep cerise," "light red," "bright purplish red," or even just "cerise pink."
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 days ago by Margaret Furness
Interesting that none of the references mention a white eye.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted today by HubertG
I don't know it's provenance but if it's described as lighter than 'Nancy Hayward' and darker than 'Jessie Clark', and is clearly a Gigantea hybrid, it's probably right. I suspect that the earliest flowers in August/winter are more saturated in colour than the later ones. I haven't grown it but I have grown 'Jessie Clark' and its blooms faded quite quickly on the plant, so perhaps this is also what is showing up in the photos here.
The photo of 'Flying Colours' in the 2014 Mistydowns catalogue shows what could be described as a dark pink/cerise/light red flower and the photo in Peter Cox's book 'Australian Roses' is also a similar shade.
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Initial post today by Nastarana
High Country Roses claims hardiness to zone 5.
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