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Malmaison (in Josephine's day)
Discussion id : 6-258
most recent 15 MAR 06 SHOW ALL
Initial post 24 MAY 04 by anonymous-60101
I have just visited Malmaison and was apalled at the state of the garden, completely neglected, diseased roses and poorly maintained beds. does anyone have any comments? Was I just unlucky? Emma, Paris May 2004
Reply #1 of 1 posted 15 MAR 06 by Unregistered Guest
I had the same sad feeling, when visiting the place. As I came to live in Rueil Malmaison recently, I met the present owner of the Josephine's house. Unfortunately the state does not care much about the state of the gardens or even Josephine's house. I would like to restore this beauty so at the present moment I thinking of a business project that would allow to finance the works
Discussion id : 4-843
most recent 11 DEC 03 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 DEC 03 by Unregistered Guest
I am attempting to recreate the rose garden Josephine Bonaparte created at Malmaison, I need to know the layout and the list of roses she grew. Can you help me.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 11 DEC 03 by Unregistered Guest
There is a great deal of very interesting controversy on this topic. Probably because a lot of it is speculation. However, many people believe it's unlikely that Josephine had a highly decorative layout, like we think of at rose gardens like L'Hay les Roses or Bagatelle. The consensus seems to be that in those days the rose was used as a decorative shrub in mixed plantings by garden architects like Blaikie, or in the Potager for cutting and herbal/medicinal reasons.

However, Josephine also lived in the days when botanical collection was at its heyday so another possibility is that her roses were grouped as plants are in systemic gardens, by family or similar characteristics. I like this theory. It's also likely that some of them would have been sheltered in her extensive green houses. They were rare, collectors items, after all.

Even though I like this theory, I've found source that actually claims to show a rare (and not very detailed) layout of her gardens. The Book called "History and Development of the Modern Rose" shows a plan by E. Touret and says that "the roses were situated on the main axis in long rectangular beds". I'm sorry that I've misplaced the author's name; will edit this if I find it, but you should be able to find it by name.

Also, I have not found a definitive list of roses that Josephine grew. Redoute painted many of her roses but also roses from other sources. Almost 100 years after her death, the designer of L'Hay and others put together a list of 197 varieties that they believed she grew, in part from the Redoute prints, and published them in 1912. The book mentioned above has that list, too; which may be as close as you can get.

The book also implies that the gardens were restored from the same Touret drawing. I can tell you that the old rose garden at Malmaison today looks nothing like the drawing in the book.

Let me know how this plan is progressing!
Discussion id : 774
most recent 15 MAY 03 SHOW ALL
Initial post 10 APR 03 by Anonymous-797
I would like to know if there is a list of roses that Josephine grew at Malmaison, particularly the 22 chinas. I would appreciate knowing of any site,book or other information pertaining to her roses.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 15 MAY 03 by Unregistered Guest
Sorry that I cannot answer it myself, but perhaps you can ask André Joyaux at
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