I have Peace from both Palatine and Star Roses, and the plants are producing beautiful flowers as they should, so any purchased from those vendors should be growing correctly.
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My Peace is blooming "oddly" - second year plant from Edmunds' is growing quite well - no complaints there. It's the blooms that look odd. It seems like the flower buds never quite fully develop before the sepals come down and flowering begins. Now in its second year the odd bloom has continued. The coloring of the bloom has a lot of white with very little yellow or pink. But the biggest thing is a rather large and green vegetative center. There are rose petals but the very center of the bloom is quite elevated (if not protruding) compared to other roses I grow. Has anyone ever experienced this with their Peace rose?
It's not overfertilization - my Peace has been under-fertilized if anything. Only organics have been used on Peace like Chicken manure, Fish emulsion and Kelp.
That said, where can you get the Peace Rose where it has been heat-treated to rejuvenate it and looks like the Peace of 50 years ago?
I have a somewhat similar experience with a 2 year old, own root purchased from a supporting vendor of HMF. In my case, about 90% of blooms are stark white, akin to JFK. But at the same time, even on the same cane on the same day, I will get a beautiful “normal” Peace bloom. Appears to have nothing to do with heat, rain, or other environmental factors. I note that a member in Jan. 2021 mentions that Star Roses distributes the rejuvenated variety (ID 105-476). I can’t vouch for the veracity of that claim, but it seems that if any entity had an interest in keeping Peace viable, it would be Meilland’s US distributor.
Thank you for pointing out Star Roses me. I have another Peace this year planted in a pot that has been quite slow to get going and hasn't bloomed yet. If that potted bloom looks good I'll probably swap it for the "oddly blooming" Peace. I've never been a big Peace fan in that there are so many much better hybrid teas out there but I want to grow it for sentimental and historic reasons.
And next spring I'll scour the local garden centers looking for a Peace from Star Roses!
Just an FYI: I’ve had my own problems sourcing a good Peace, and on my third try last fall, I paid Heirloom’s price. This one is the real deal, and I’ve been very happy with it this spring.
If it is the real deal, you might get a sport. I did, a kind of buff colored version, which I did propagate, but then had to leave behind in a cross country move.
I have replaced the Phyllody infected Peace I had from Edmunds (purchased in 2021) with one from Palatine (planted April 2022) and another from Heirloom (planted April 2023). I'm very happy with them - the color in the early stages of bloom is something to behold. I do believe I have the real thing now from two different sources.
My Peace is blooming "oddly" - first year plant from Edmunds' is growing quite well - no complaints there. It's the blooms that look odd. It seems like the flower buds never quite fully develop before the sepals come down and flowering begins. The coloring of the bloom has a lot of white with very little yellow or pink. But the biggest thing is a rather large and green vegetative center. Has anyone ever experienced this with their Peace rose?
It's not overfertilization - my Peace has been under-fertilized if anything. Only organics have been used on Peace like Chicken manure, Fish emulsion and Kelp. I am trying to figure out if I need to replace my Peace next Spring.
That said, where can you get the Peace Rose where it has been heat-treated to rejuvenate it and looks like the Peace of 50 years ago?
I sent 25 VID (virus free) cuttings from Foundation Plant service -UC Davis to K and M nursery that were grafted onto Fortuniana (VID) rootstock. This is my attempt to bring back the vigor of the Peace rose to the 1945 rose that I knew as a child. Let me know if you are interested in this experiment.
That's good to know but Fortuniana rootstock is not very viable in the Chicago area!
I finally diagnosed that my Peace (purchased from Edmunds' in 2021) suffers from the Phyllody malady - growing excessive vegetative centers which essentially malforms the bloom. That Peace is being replaced by one from Heirloom in a few weeks.
