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'Forster Rosentraum' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hi! I live at the coast in the PNW. How is Charlene in regards to rain/balling? I'd love to try to grow this beauty.
Well, no one responded to my question, but based on all of the positive comments in general, I have decided to make the purchase from Heirloom Roses in Oregon. Wish me luck!
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I find her such a delight, and have not seen much problem with balling here in Zone 5b, Maine. She is pretty healthy, and with some spring pruning has done well. One was a small own root, one was grafted. We can have such cold wet weather here. And fog sometimes too. The saddest story with balling for me has been Earth Angel.
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Available from - High Country Roses www.highcountryroses.com
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1 AUG 23 by
Emmie
Princesse Charlene certainly is regal, with a sturdy, upright habit, healthy bright-apple-green foliage, and blushed apricot blooms. A hint of yellow in the center gives them an ethereal quality. The petals/blooms are more substantial than the David Austin roses I own, so they are slow to shatter and don't shrivel in the heat of summer. When fully opened, the flat blooms look like little ballerinas dancing atop the long stems. Her divine fragrance is a mixture of champagne, soft old rose, clementine, candied ginger, and apricot.
This is a rose that looks beautiful in all its photographs, but is still lovelier in person. It's enchanting.
Mine is own-root from Heirloom Roses, planted in-ground three months ago where it receives more than 10 hours of daily sun. It took off straight away, but has looked it's best in the past 2-3 weeks, as have most of the roses I planted in the spring. Though I've had it for a short time, Princesse Charlene has withstood heavy late-spring rains, regular high winds, and my hot/dry summer with no problems (so far). I'll update my review after it's gone through winter (7b).
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17 AUG 21
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17 AUG 21 by
Johno
Despite HMF description of 31 - 39 inches Charlene will with ease reach the 6 foot mark in warm climates. At this stage the advice is to reduce the height by about a half now (1 metre). This will encourage lateral growth but of more importance new water shoots for a rose in its first year. If you are subject to strong winds remember to stake any new water shoots that emerge from the crown, For me Charlene eventually settled down and proved to be a very rewarding rose.
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Thanks, John! I am glad to hear that your Charlene has been rewarding. Last month, I cut about 1 ft off the top of that main cane, and instead of growing laterally, it shot up even taller than it was before! How tall do you keep your plant? I will definitely remove the 3 ft from the height as you suggested. Also, I forgot to mention that mine is on Fortuniana rootstock, since it is resistant to the nematodes in typical S Florida sandy soil.
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18 AUG 21 by
Johno
I would not have thought the Fortuniana rootstock, which is ideal for sandy soils, is the cause for the tall growth. I assume my rose is on Dr Huey. At the moment all the plant’s energy is going into the one shoot, and additional water shoots is the goal. Checking on Charlene, my three year old plant now has four stems and a new shoot is developing. The winter pruning has just finished and the rose stems were reduced to around 18 inches. I expect it will grow back to the 4 – 5 foot mark by the end of the growing season.
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Most likely the main reason for the ultra vigorous growth in this rose are the Graham Thomas genes. GT grew as a monstrous climber in Zones 9b and 10a SoCal for me in several locations with multiple plants. Where the climate doesn't limit it, the plant is indeterminate, like a tomato determined to eat the world. I learned from experience to avoid that rose and EVERYTHING bred from it unless you have barns you wish to slip cover.
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2 NOV 21 by
Johno
There is no doubt that Graham Thomas out grows its shrub status, making it a good pillar rose here. I could not forego the beauty of GT and Princess Charlene (+ Fragrance) because they grow tall in a warm climate. My PC seems to have settled for a lower height this season, partly, I think, because I have encouraged all the shoots to grow.
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Thanks, John! I am glad to hear that your Charlene has been rewarding. Last month, I cut about 1 ft off the top of that main cane, and instead of growing laterally, it shot up even taller than it was before! How tall do you keep your plant? I will definitely remove the 3 ft from the height as you suggested. Also, I forgot to mention that mine is on Fortuniana rootstock, since it is resistant to the nematodes in typical S Florida sandy soil.
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