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'Madame de Montespan' rose Reviews & Comments
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21 JUN by
Nace
Fantastic disease resistance- almost everything gets black spot in my (no spray) yard, and I'm not sure I've ever seen a diseased leaf on it. It took at least 2-3 years to really get going, but now that it has, it gives gorgeous dark red/purple blushed blooms in variable size flushes through the season. Mild scent, but it's there. The Japanese beetles like to munch it a bit, but never seem to do much damage. The shape of the bush is a bit awkward, with thick canes that grow outwards at varying angles, so I've had to tie/stake mine to keep it a bit more contained in it's space. Overall, it's an easy keeper.
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I've owned this rose for a few years.
It is virtually disease free and fertile as both a pollen and seed parent.
It has rather small and sparse blooms for the large size of the plant. And I detect no fragrance.
It grows in a rather awkward angular form, about 7 feet tall and 5 feet wide.
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I agree with you, I have the same experience. She is a thorny monster, very irregular and ungainly, grows in all directions. I can’t detect much of a scent (she’s supposed to be of the Parfuma series). But she keeps blooming in our 100F weather (North Texas) like no other. The blooms are not huge but she keeps going. I may need to replant her somewhere else because she is just getting too big even though I prune her severely.
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I will add to this by pointing out that in my Zone 5b (Chicagoland) garden the bloom petals burn so easily. I am having trouble seeing the redeeming qualities of this rose. It's growing well and yes, awkwardly, and blooming well. Only a mild fragrance for me thus far. But Dark Desire's blooms may be the most unattractive of all my 200 bushes. I should shovel prune it as it's occupying valuable garden real estate in a prime location but I'll give it until next summer to see if it improves.
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#3 of 4 posted
20 AUG 22 by
Plazbo
It's curious the lack of smell. I've smelt it as a few nurseries (I've never bought it) and it's always smelt strongly of potpourri with kind of dusty/soapy tones.
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#4 of 4 posted
13 SEP by
Jay-Jay
Where it grows in Winschoten (Rosarium) it produces lots of flowers flowers, that are rather large and have a strong pleasant scent... But some of the flowers were almost scentless!!!
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Parentage = Chartreuse de Parme × (Esther Geldenhuys × Unnamed Seedling) , per a certain Japanese source
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#1 of 2 posted
27 JAN 22 by
jedmar
Thank you, we added this parentage as a note.
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This seems to track with the patent info. Which, if true, means the unknown parent likely had few petals, was not a hybrid tea, and probably triploid (or diploid). The possibilities are too great to fathom a guess, but it was probably a rose from before 1999.
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9 APR 22 by
Callum
Available from - Treloar Roses https://www.treloarroses.com.au
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