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Discussion id : 133-843
most recent 27 JUL 22 SHOW ALL
Initial post 23 JUL 22 by Michael Garhart
My first experience was decent. That was 6 years ago. They were cordial, and it was simple, but the shipping definitely felt predatory.

My second experience, which was this year, was fairly nasty. I felt like a major inconvenience to them. Shipping felt similarly predatory. Luckily, that is the last experience I need with them, since I was only using it for rare roses only they had.
Reply #1 of 9 posted 26 JUL 22 by MADActuary
Michael - what do you mean by "predatory" ?

My experience with Roses Unlimited over the past two years has been nothing short of AWESOME! I love speaking with Pat and Stephanie. Their plants always have a very well developed root system filling the one gallon pots they use. I wish their shipping boxes were sturdier but the root system is always good. I have ordered and received about 30 roses from them over 2021 and 2022.

I didn't want your experience to be the only or last word on Roses Unlimited because I don't think your comments/experience are representative of the larger rose growing community or of the quality of the vendor Roses Unlimited.
Reply #2 of 9 posted 26 JUL 22 by Kathy Strong
Their shipping costs are unecessarily high. Higher than charged by the carriers, I believe.
Reply #3 of 9 posted 26 JUL 22 by MADActuary
Agreed. But they also use UPS second day I believe whereas with many others it's UPS or FEDX or USPS ground. I for one am willing to pay more for timely delivery. Compare RU prices for roses to the prices at Heirloom - they are half as much in some cases. The higher shipping will eat into that savings granted. West coasters may be used to Heirloom or Rogue Valley or Northland Rosarium or Regan which are all on the west coast. Roses Unlimited is in South Carolina, over 2,500 miles away. I know I wait much longer for my order from Heirloom or Regan to arrive (from west coast) than I wait for orders from Roses Unlimited or Jackson & Perkins (in South Carolina).

I don't like using the word predatory. One could use the same word about the prices at Heirloom. Nothing wrong with saying that shipping costs are high - that would be factual without any negative connotations.
Reply #5 of 9 posted 27 JUL 22 by Michael Garhart
By predatory, I mean that 2 states over should not cost $35 more than a competitor. I looked at it many ways and concluded they add costs to it. Without an explanation (or a decent site that explains ANYTHING), I can only conclude it is predatory.
Reply #7 of 9 posted 27 JUL 22 by MADActuary
Michael, how do you figure two states over? Aren't you in Oregon? Roses Unlimited is in South Carolina.
Reply #8 of 9 posted 27 JUL 22 by Michael Garhart
Than a competitor.
Reply #4 of 9 posted 26 JUL 22 by Lee H.
Interesting subject (at least for those of us in the US). I bought multiple roses from multiple vendors in 2021-22, and I thought it might be might be instructive to compare prices. Note that each of these purchases was at least 2 roses delivered per order, and was whatever the vendor chose as their “standard” shipping (not a “premium” shipment option). Do keep in mind there is also the variable of container size, I received 1 gallon, 2 gallon, dormant bare roots, and band containers but I didn’t try to weight for that. This is simply the bottom line cost per delivered rose:

Burlington: $3.02/ea.
Roses Unlimited: $6.00/ea
High Country: $6.32/ea
David Austin: $6.65/ea.
Northland Rosarium: $7.31/ea.
Palatine: $9.74/ea (across border shipment)
Antique Rose Emporium: $10.03/ea
Rose Petals Nursery: $10.69/ea.
Rogue Valley (2021): $10.57/ea
Rogue Valley (2022) $29.19/ea. (not a misprint)
Reply #6 of 9 posted 27 JUL 22 by MADActuary
Lee - your numbers represent only shipping costs, right?

It is worth noting that Kimberly - the Rose Geek - has several videos out on YouTube showing the unboxing of like 20+ orders from various vendors (in 2021 and in 2022). She has ordered roses from places I did not know even existed and films the unboxing and puts the video out on YouTube. She does a "rack and stack" where she assumes 5 roses are purchased from each vendor and she lists the total cost for 5 roses in increasing order - essentially it's a ranked low-to-high cost listing of all the rose vendors. It's definitely worth checking out. On YouTube simply search for "Rose Geek"

Kimberly is registered here on HMF as RoseGeek I believe. She occasionally makes comments and posts pictures. She is a big fan of David Austin roses and has 600+ roses on her riverfront property in Maryland.
Reply #9 of 9 posted 27 JUL 22 by Lee H.
Correct. Just the billed shipping cost/number of roses. As you probably know, a few vendors also charge a nominal handling fee, and some run specials offering free shipping if you buy a certain quantity, or order at slow times of the year (e.g. Heirloom). Of course, “free shipping” is like “free lunch”, and it really isn’t free, it just gets rolled up in the price of the rose. So in one sense, it really boils down to the way Kimberley factored it…total combined price. Thanks for the tip on the video.

I wish the nursery rating system was more usable on HMF. Unfortunately, nearly all N. America nurseries are rated excellent overall with the exception of Edmunds. And there is no individual rating category for rose price, or shipping costs.
Discussion id : 133-174
most recent 4 JUN 22 HIDE POSTS
Some of the healthiest roses I've ever received in the mail, and these traveled from one coast to the other. Very very well packed, and large own root plants. Thank you Roses Unlimited!
Discussion id : 131-233
most recent 19 JAN 22 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 18 JAN 22 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
Did anyone actually get any roses from RU this year?
I attempted to order, and I did so over the phone, but then I've never been charged on my card, no confirmation of order, no invoice sent, no receipt, no reply to my email.
I've placed orders elsewhere, since after waiting 9 weeks for a response, though I've ordered a smaller order from another nursery 4 weeks ago, and received them Saturday morning.

I'm curious if they have decided to only sell locally now. It would have been nice if they could have updated their website to inform of their actions (or inactions).
Reply #1 of 1 posted 19 JAN 22 by Rose-Pixie
RU does not ship to the State of Hawaii. I live in Honolulu (Kapahulu), and I have my RU roses sent to my second home in Florida (Jupiter); furthermore, I have 15 roses on order from RU, and they will be shipped in 04/2022. You might want to order roses from K&M, but I got a hunch that they only take profitable orders, and it took a while for K&M to respond to my emails...they were short of employees around 09/2021, and I received my order in Florida around 10/2021. The following is a list or rose nurseries that I have ordered from, and they ship to Hawaii: A Reverance for Roses, Rogue Valley Roses, Heirloom Roses, High Country Roses, Burlington Rose Nursery
Discussion id : 129-298
most recent 3 DEC 21 SHOW ALL
Initial post 8 OCT 21 by Vince Lepore
Be on the look out for Roses Unlimited. I have tried to contact them many times by email and telephone over the past three weeks and I've had no response
Reply #1 of 9 posted 11 OCT 21 by MADActuary
Any follow-up to this post?
Reply #2 of 9 posted 12 OCT 21 by Vince Lepore
Still no response
Reply #3 of 9 posted 12 OCT 21 by Le_Not
I've had the same issue -- no response to my email for over a month now. Guess I'll be ordering roses elsewhere...
Reply #4 of 9 posted 29 NOV 21 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
The contact e-mail on Roses Unlimited website is but recently this mid-November 2021 I got an e-mail from them at ( instead. It's best to include BOTH e-mail addresses when contacting Pat Henry at Roses Unlimited. Sometimes one of their e-mail works, sometimes the other doesn't.
Nurseries can't guarantee any plants until January, so they won't respond until Jan. Another own-root nursery stated that they won't take spring orders until March.
Reply #5 of 9 posted 30 NOV 21 by MADActuary
In the ARS Annual I received the other day the classified listing for Roses Unlimited includes BOTH e-mail addresses - so your advice is most apropos - just use both.
Reply #6 of 9 posted 1 DEC 21 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Today Dec. 1, 2021 roses are sold out fast on Roses Unlimited's website, which indicates which ones are sold-out. Francis Meilland is sold out, same with Landlust and other popular roses. Too bad that Austin roses are no longer offered at RU which makes it harder to choose fragrant and cold-hardy roses for my zone 5.
Reply #7 of 9 posted 2 DEC 21 by Jonathan Windham
Reply #8 of 9 posted 2 DEC 21 by Jonathan Windham
I spoke to the co-owner, Bill Patterson. Roses Unlimited is indeed operational, they've just been swamped with orders. Please be patient with them as they are not as large a nursery as some of the other places. I assure you they provide quality plants, I've never received an unhealthy one from them.
Reply #9 of 9 posted 3 DEC 21 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Agree on their large and healthy own-root roses. I have been ordering yearly from them since 2011, and I'm impressed with the size of their gallon-own-roots. This Nov. 2021 many are sold out fast compared to previous years .. so they are busier than normal.
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