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The Nursery at Grace Rose Farm
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Well, it appears their business model relies on getting “exclusives” with breeders such as Tantau, and then selling their plants at double the price of anyone else, while at the same time preventing those other vendors from selling those roses in the US. This year Palatine is blocked from selling Tantau roses, which they otherwise will do. I will NOT be supporting them and would discourage others as well. In my opinion they are a walking talking antitrust violation under both California and US law. Yes I know that Austin is famous for this, but they keep an army of lawyers employed supporting such marketing decisions.
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4 DEC by
 Lee H.
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Well, it takes two to tango, and I think Tantau would be due at least half the blame. It could be more effective to boycott Tantau. I hate to point fingers at the little guy for just trying to make some money in a difficult market.
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Strongly disagree. Antitrust may or may not be a law in Germany, where Tantau does business; I have no idea what German law is. But it is against the statutes here, and this nursery is ignoring them to increase its customers costs of the plants to double what it would cost if they were not blocking their competition out of the market for those plants. I will not be encouraging these tactics by buying from them.
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5 DEC by
Lee H.
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Point taken, but isn’t it Tantau who is deciding who to sell (or not sell) to? Regardless of the laws that may be in Germany, I’m only observing that without Tantau’s active participation in this “conspiracy”, nothing happens. They cannot be held blameless.
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IDK, but does not Kordes do something similar? I ask because I have seen small nurseries, Starlight Perennials comes to mind, all of a sudden offering Kordes roses and nothing or very little else in roses.
Does anyone here know if restrictive clauses in contracts are even enforceable? Tantau can decide to whom they want to sell, but do they also get to tell a vendor what else that company can propagate and sell. I know just that is what DA Co. did and does with its' contracts but is such an arrangement actually legally enforceable.
If the Tantau roses being offered exclusively to Grace Rose Farm are not patented in the USA, anyone can buy a mother plant from the favored vendor and propagate their own clones.
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Seems to me Kordes does almost the opposite. As far as I can tell without seeing any contracts, they do everything they can to get their roses to as many vendors as they can entice to sell them. I see them in many different dealer’s inventories. As for enforcement, it is mostly voluntary in small markets such as roses because everyone knows everyone else in this business (or almost) and your past actions will follow you. Reputations are still important here. Same for licensing arrangements to pay breeders for their work. Mostly voluntary as to enforcement.
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You have most of my favorites! I've sent a couple emails to see if I could get an extra Dijon rose (I ordered two already) but haven't heard back. What's the process to order roses? are they mostly bare root and ship in winter or potted? Budded or own root?
I'm super excited you are offering plants!
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Do they sell plants or stems for florists?
If it is the latter, do they need to be listed on HMF?
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They've sold stems in the past but now are branching out into selling plants (according to a recent newsletter).
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I saw no indication of plants being offered on their website. Maybe retail only for now?
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Hi, we will be launching our bare root online shop in August. Thank you for your interest!
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I just looked at your lovely web site, and saw no place to order rose plants.
Did I just miss it, or do you only sell plants at certain times of the year, or have you decided not to sell plants yet?
Thanks,
Virginia
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Hi, I'll put you down for Honey Dijon. We were sold out, but I'll have two for you. We will have an online shop live in August. Roses will ship in the winter barefoot. All the roses we grow are budded on Multiflora. Any we purchase from Weeks/DA are on whatever stock they use. Thank you!
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Thank you. That is good news indeed. Will you be offering any albas?
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Hi. Apologies for the late response. At this time we have not collected any Albas but they are among our favorites. You may subscribe to our newsletter on the website to see all that we are currently offering. Thank you!
Susan
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Thanks! I have two already ordered and paid for two from your first round. Was hoping to plant three in a spot but I can make 2 work. Looking forward to the others that you offer as they come up!
Thanks, joan
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