'Cymbaline' rose reviews and comments

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'Cymbaline' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 123-792 most recent 7 NOV 20 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 7 NOV 20 by HMF supporting member

Viviane SCHUSSELE

Cymbeline Cunobelinos (mort en 41) est un roi breton mi-historique mi-légendaire. Nommé Cynfelyn ou Kynvelin dans la tradition galloise il a été mis en scène par Shakespeare sous le nom de Cymbeline.	REPLY

Discussion id : 38-867 most recent 18 MAY 16 SHOW ALL

Initial post 26 AUG 09 by Jeff Britt

I had Cymbaline in my garden several houses and many years ago and found in a most unusual rose. I recall it was somewhat lax in habit and not the most free-flowering rose, but it repeated well enough for me. The flowers were exceptional in two respects -- the ethereal color and the amazing fragrance. The roses really did smell like myrrh, with a hint of violets. The color for me was creamy pale pink, tinged a smoky gray-lavender. A very pretty rose with a truly remarkable fragrance.

Reply #1 of 6 posted 15 SEP 09 by HMF supporting member

Jeffrey

Hey, Jeff! I'm thinking about adding this rose to my garden. My space is limited, but I think I can squeeze in a small climber. The scent of 'Cymbaline' appeals to me. How healthy is this rose? Do you have any other photos? I'd love any additional info! Great shot, BTW! Thanks Jeff	REPLY

Reply #2 of 6 posted 17 SEP 09 by Jeff Britt

Jeff,

I wish I could take credit for that wonderful photo, but I can't. Someone else took the photo and posted it here. Seeing the photo did make me recall growing Cymbaline, which I think sort of disappeared from commerce for a while. As I recall (and it has been a while since I grew it) it is a reasonably healthy Austin. Which is to say, it is prone to mildew and rust if the weather is right. I don't recall blackspot being a problem at all. It isn't the most heavily foliaged rose, either. It tends to sprawl a bit, growing wider than tall unless it is trained otherwise. Rebloom is average and in flushes -- about 6-8 weeks between flushes. The spring bloom is the best. And like many Austins of that time, it doesn't like to be pruned too heavily in winter. The plant I had was grafted and moderately vigorous, own-root plants would be probably less so.

I would take a chance on it, if I were you. The flowers are ravishing and their fragrance is truly unique. I think Vintage has it, though I think it's been popular with them, so I hope it isn't sold out.

Jeff

Reply #3 of 6 posted 17 SEP 09 by HMF supporting member

Jeffrey

Hey, Jeff
Vintage notified me of 'Cymballine' being newly available own root. I think I'm going to get one... the scent sounds so tempting. I like some of the early Austin roses. This one sounds like a lovely addition.

I deal with mildew on some of my other roses, so i guess I can handle adding another to the spray regime. As to foliage... I like to grow Clematis into my roses, so a white or pale pink Clem would fill in the gaps...

You garden in San Francisco? Me to. Twin Peaks area.
Jeff

Reply #6 of 6 posted 17 SEP 09 by Jeff Britt

Jeff,

Great! I think you're going to like Cymbaline.

I garden in Glen Park, so fairly similar weather. I grew Cymbaline when I was living in Noe Valley in a garden with rather poor air circulation. Mildew usually isn't a problem where I garden now, just a whiff on a few sensitive plants if I over fertilize. Rust is another matter entirely. If we have foggy summer weather (as we did this July/August), rust becomes a huge problem. And in California, there aren't chemicals on the retail market to combat rust effectively, even if you have the inclination to use them. Alas, some of the my favorite roses are martyrs to rust some years.

I also grow Clematis to grow among my roses -- all type III's so I can hack them back when I prune the roses in January.

Jeff

Reply #4 of 6 posted 17 SEP 09 by HMF supporting member

Jeffrey

Reply #7 of 6 posted 18 MAY 16 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Thank you !!	REPLY

Discussion id : 61-145 most recent 1 MAY 14 SHOW ALL

Initial post 18 JAN 12 by SteveinAus

Saw a couple of bushes of this variety in a garden centre today and was super-impressed with the fragrance. Very strong. Probably the strongest myrrh fragrance I've come across. Apparently very healthy and has spreading, low growth (4 foot tall by up to 7 foot wide, they reckon, here in Southern Australia).	REPLY

Reply #1 of 2 posted 29 APR 14 by evothia

I grow Cymbeline in my garden in Melbourne. I have to agree with you Steve. Great form as a bush, spreading, arching strong growth that needs quite a bit of space. And the flower....fragrance to knock your socks off and with a beautiful form. It sets superb hips and flowers very late into autumn. The fragrance is not as fickle as some of the newer austin's: it is strong in very cold wet weather and still remains strong at the end of hot windy days. I find it 'interesting' that this rose is not mentioned in any current lists of "older/superceded" varieties by David Austin Roses. There is such a list in their new book "English Roses" that lists all sorts of odd roses that were either never released into commerce 'Admired Miranda' or were superceded "Cressida". Cymbeline in David Austin Senior's book "Old Roses and English Roses" even receives a " * " indicating varieties according to David Austin Senior that show great garden worth: health, bush form, vigour, fragrance....
Yet now it is trying to be wiped out of the history books as though it never existed.........

Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 MAY 14 by Kit

I grow this rose in California's San Fernando Valley, it certainly follows Steve's description. The fragrance is great in the bud and on the opening bloom, strong and highly charged with myrrh; but in most weather is gone by the time the rose blows.
I've discovered that proper pruning can make a very big difference in keeping this rose well foliated, unless the basal breaks get cut back to four or five nodes, they'll only produce secondaries on the terminal handful of nodes, leaving up to two meters of bare cane.
BTW - if anyone in or near Los Angeles County wants one of these shrubs, right now I have half a dozen small ones in 2 gallon cans to give away to anyone willing to shlep over here to Valley Village and pick one up. Send me a message and I'll set one aside for you.