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    'Deborah ®' rose Reviews & Comments
    most recent 15 FEB 18  
    RoseDeborah ® (floribunda, Meilland, 1989)
    Initial post 12 FEB 18 by Michael Garhart
    I'm guessing this one (the bush version of the name) was bred from Bonica. If I had to guess a pollen parent, I would consider Tamango. Less sure of my guess of the pollen parent, though.
    Reply #1 posted 15 FEB 18 by Patricia Routley
    I have added the parentage from the 2003 reference.
    Reply #2 posted 15 FEB 18 by Michael Garhart
    Awesome.

    So it was Centenaire de Lourdes via Anne de Bretagne giving that dominant peduncle and foliage type. Maybe someday we'll find more out about Centenaire de Lourdes.
    most recent 2 APR 17  
    RoseDeborah ® (floribunda, Meilland, 1989)
    Initial post 30 MAR 17 by Michael Garhart
    The references says climber. Shrub. 100-110cm (3.5-4' range, which is average flori-shrub range). Very confusing of the breeder!
    Reply #1 posted 31 MAR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
    Charles & Brigid Quest-Ritson, R.H.S. Encyclopedia of Roses:

    80 centimetres and there is also an acute accent over the E.
    Reply #2 posted 31 MAR 17 by Michael Garhart
    Ah, thank you!

    Reading down the comments, it seems that the name associated to the climber tag is the name used in Africa. That may explain the size behavior differences (a little, I guess).

    Also wondering if there is a bush version and a climbing mutation. The photos seem to be very disparate in plant dimensions. (Or I'm just going crazy, which is possible).
    Reply #3 posted 31 MAR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
    Perhaps not so insane. A picture from Aurelija shows at typical floribunda about a metre high whilst a picture from David Elliott shows a substantial climber against a wall.
    Reply #4 posted 31 MAR 17 by Michael Garhart
    And the breeder used "it" for both climbers and floribundas. Which makes me ponder a mutation was known and used.
    Reply #5 posted 31 MAR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
    You are like a rosarian Sherlock Holmes.
    Reply #6 posted 31 MAR 17 by jedmar
    There is another explanation: The breeder code 'Meinoiral' for 'Blossom Magic' as reported by Ludwig's Roses is incorrect. MR XI and the Encylopedia of Rose Science state 'Meimanoir'. We will correct this listing.
    Reply #7 posted 2 APR 17 by Michael Garhart
    Woohoo. Mystery solved. Things just weren't adding up.
    most recent 27 OCT 12  
    RoseDeborah ® (floribunda, Meilland, 1989)
    Initial post 25 OCT 12 by Charles Quest-Ritson
    I think this may be a synonym for MEInoiral.
    Reply #1 posted 25 OCT 12 by RoseBlush
    Do you know of a nursery selling 'Meinoiral' as 'Blossom Magic' or do you have a REFERENCE confirming that 'Blossom Magic' is an accepted synonym for 'Meinoiral' ?

    Smiles,
    Lyn
    Reply #2 posted 27 OCT 12 by jedmar
    Lyn, this seems to be the name used in South Africa. I have added a reference.
    Reply #3 posted 27 OCT 12 by RoseBlush
    Jemar.......

    You are amazing ! Thank you.

    Smiles,
    Lyn