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'Abbaye de Cluny ®' rose Reviews & Comments
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Available from - Menagerie Farm & Flower
https://menagerieflower.com/
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I am glad to see someone is preserving the Abbaye. It can be a gorgeous rose when well sited, facing east with some afternoon shade in a warm climate. I know, I know, your best real estate, but I found the Abbaye worth the prime spot. It makes a large flower in a dusty peach color and distinctive shape, which unfortunately has rather thin petals. I think this one is for warm, sunny climates only, but very satisfactory therein. Repeat bloom was surprisingly good, and, having been bred in the South of France, I believe, Abbaye is not the water hog many English bred roses are. It makes a medium sized bush, about 5'-7' x 3'-4', and would be well sited along an east property line, as part of an informal hedge, provided there were some protection from hot western sun, which would otherwise fry the thin petals.
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Abbaye de Cluny was a complete success last summer 2010 in Connecticut. But, then again, it was one of the warmest summers on record and it was very dry from Spring through mid-summer. My parents came up in July 2010 and to this day by mother still raves over Abbaye de Cluny. I can only hope this summer is fairly dry. Now, June 2011, It is budded up and ready to bloom. We haven't had any significant rain since Memorial Day. If the rains return when it is ready to bloom, I swear I'm going to tent the darn bush to keep the rain from causing the flowers to ball. I love this rose. But, like John said in a previous post, it might be too much trouble in areas where you get frequent rain. Maybe I'll dig it up and give it to my mother. It doesn't seem to rain in North Carolina anymore!
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I was recently gifted this plant from another rosarian who grew it and had trouble with it balling in wet and cool weather. I planted it in a very large container and plant to keep it that way. This way, when it rains I can move it and keep it dry and then when it is sunny and dry I can move it back into the nice outdoors to encourage it to grow and the blooms to open completely and not ball up and get ugly. So far the transplant seems to have been taken well by the plant and I look forward to seeing how it does. I did grow it's seed parent, Just Joey, and wasn't at all pleased with it for mostly the same reasons. In my rose beds it never grew very tall and the flowers were few and far between and when the weather was damp or cool the flowers would no open well. I finally shovel pruned it tiring of trying to coax good blooms out of her. Hopefully by growing Abbaye de Cluney in a pot so it can be moved around I can remedy this problem.
John
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The pictures of Abbaye de Cluny here on HMF really remind me of my second year rose Mother of Pearl. It's color, size, and bloom form are very much alike. The bush on my Mother or Pearl bets very big and bushy. It's foliage stays quite clean. I don't recall seeing any BS or PM on mine in the two years I have had it. It is also winter hardy as I don't winter protect 99% of my roses including this one and it came through with flying colors and was vigorously growing and blooming in very short order. Also, the blooms on my Mother of Pearl have never balled even when the rains are aplenty.
SO, if you aren't happy with your Abbaye de Cluny, I would suggest trying Mother of Pearl as is sounds to me that it is probably an improved version of AdC.
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