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'Marie Baumann' rose Reviews & Comments
most recent 12 NOV  
Initial post 11 NOV by odinthor
What is the original source of the Rosenlexikon's parentage for this rose of Jacqueminot x Victor Verdier?
Reply #1 posted 11 NOV by HMF Admin
HMF typically does not record provenance for individual plant attributes. Our References and guest Comments tabs would be a starting point.

You raise a good point, noting the specific source(s) of lineage information where possible would be useful.

HMF is always open to improvement, as should any mutable resource.
Reply #2 posted 12 NOV by jedmar
We do not have access to Jäger's archives (if they still exist). I do not think he invented parentages. This one is probably based on some magazine article or nursery catalogue which has not been digitalized yet. Wikipedia has a source for the parentage of its article on 'Marie Baumann' - it is HelpMeFind!
Reply #3 posted 12 NOV by odinthor
Right, I don't think Jäger simply cooked up things himself, as that would be pointless and ultimately self-defeating; but it's an obligation of the historian to probe when possible the validity of Jäger's source, hence the question.
most recent 12 NOV 10  
Initial post 12 NOV 10 by RosenNette
Available from - Karl Otto Schütt
www.historische-rosen-schuett.de
most recent 17 MAR 10  
Initial post 17 MAR 10 by kev
the comments you make here about marie baumann hp and mme alphonse de lavalee hp is quite correct having seen the two together, they are quite seperate and disticnt rose varieties.Both in colour,fragrance and bloom style and also in bush type they are very different.they could never be mistaken as to be the same plant