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'Roseate' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 69-230
most recent 5 JAN 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 JAN 13 by Patricia Routley
There are some intriguing rose names in the 'Roseate' references.
1918 'Roseate'.['Roseate' was introduced in 1931. Did Alister Clark later re-use a name?]

1933 'Roseale'. [quoted as the seed parent of 'Roseate'. Was the 1918 reference a misspelling of yet another Alister Clark rose 'Roseale'?

1979 'Rosente'. [just this name is listed with a question mark in a listing of Alister Clark's roses. No 'Roseate' was in this listing and Rosente' may have been a misspelling

This is just for the record. A pity we didn't have the rose to struggle over, instead of these confounding names.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 3 JAN 13 by jedmar
Added a reference from Rosenlexikon.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 3 JAN 13 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Jedmar. The 1936 Rosernlexikon reference probably originated from the 1933 American Rose Annual. I lean towards thinking a little more justification is needed before a file is opened for 'Roseale'.
(I could be wrong though.)
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 5 JAN 13 by jedmar
Maybe follow-up the origin of the name "Roseale"? It seems to be a rare name for woman? Was there a Roseale in Clark's family or among his friends? In google one can find a Roseale Clark, born in Yorkshire in 1885, but that must be a coincidence.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 5 JAN 13 by Patricia Routley
Er...Thanks Jedmar. (or maybe a name for a pink tinged beer?).
No Roseale Clark is mentioned in T. R. Garnett's book on Alister Clark, 'Man of Roses' that I can see on a quick glance in the index. I will open a file for 'Roseale' as if we ever do find more, we will have lost this thread when we need it.
Patricia
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Discussion id : 54-787
most recent 5 JUN 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 JUN 11 by Geoff Crowhurst
I am interested in this rose as Alister Clark donated this rose to the Ivanhoe Horticultural Society in Melbourne, of which I am a member (president 2010-11), and I am working on a history of the Society, which was formed in 1906. I had thought Roseate extinct, but as one member has listed it as a favorite, maybe it is still out there somewhere. I would certainly like to know.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 4 JUN 11 by Margaret Furness
Bad luck Geoff - I think you've fallen victim (as I did several times) to someone playing s bs, who thinks the only good rose is a dead rose, and gives Favourite votes to probably-extinct ones.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 4 JUN 11 by HMF Admin
Actually, that's a good idea for an enhancement - disallow favorite voting for extinct plants.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 5 JUN 11 by Margaret Furness
Yes, thank you. And if it could be done easily, I'd recommend deleting all votes from that person. I assume there was only one.
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