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'Flamenco' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 134-976
most recent 3 NOV 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 NOV 22 by cooleyedbabe
I purchased Flamenco from J&P in 2019. There was a small lesion near the base of one cane. At that time I was particularly ignorant of rose diseases.
From 2005 to 2013, grew a dozen or so HTs & GFs about 300 yds. from the beach of Pierpont Bay, Ventura, CA (e.g. Blue Girl, Black Baccara, Pope Pius, Gold Medal, can't remember others) . Only disease was mildew on BB. Blackspot, insects, what were those? Innocence is bliss.
2013 moved back to Portland, OR (9b). Winter 2013 tore out old rose garden, fumigated, let it set (horticulturist advice). Fall 2014 ordered roses for Spring 2015 planting. All looked good, grew well, some blackspot easily controlled, no mildew.
Spring 2019 received Flamenco HT from J&P. There was a small lesion near the base of one cane. At that time, since I hadn't any uncontrollable problems, I was pretty ignorant about rose diseases. I had never heard of Rose Canker. Researching the internet, I learned that the "lesion" was rose canker. Yes, a particularly unusual presentation according to what I read. Soon my Flamenco had a "lesion" at the top of a cane. I removed it. Then another, removed, then another, removed, til no canes left. The new canes were less than pencil in dia. Flowers 2 1/2" then up to 3". BUT the worst part was, over the next 2 years, canker spread to 1/2 my 40 roses. I should have pulled it when the canker kept popping up but I couldn't give up. Finally did give up and burned it. Keep a sharp eye for lesions no matter how small. Cut canes out as soon as I see it.
Didn't think of refund or replacement. I figured it was just a fluke. So this Spring I couldn't resist this beautiful baby especially after reading HMF comments. Long story short: Ordered 3, all had rose mosaic and small canker lesions, upon delivery. I immediately informed J & P (sent photos). They made full refund. A month later I received 3 more Flamencos?! Go figure. They too had mosaic but no canker. But I guess mosaic is not fatal, just weird looking. I constantly patrol and remove any canker. I don't know if I'll ever eradicate it. Probably not. Ironically, new 2022 roses from 3 other nurseries either had canker lesions or lesions within 3 days. Planted nowhere near other roses (a new bed). From 1 nursery, the canker was extensive down into the graft. With detailed photos I got a full refund. I planted those in a pasture across a paved driveway behind a big metal barn. I wanted to see if the canker had destroyed the graft. The canes never grew. The other roses just had extensive lesions which I cut out. That only left 1" - 2" canes that got more lesions. I gave up and burned them all.
Yes, I have had several rosarians confirm that it's canker. It wasn't til 2020 that I learned to spray my pruners with alcohol or a disinfectant. Now I generously spray pruners between each cutting on the same bush. Then I immerse cutters to top of handles before moving to the next bush. I spray my gauntlet gloves too and wash them daily. I am getting a handle on things. I'm up to 55 HTs (includes 6 Flamencos LOL!) and 20 GFs.
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Discussion id : 127-936
most recent 1 JUN 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 JUN 21 by drossb1986
The pics on here don't do this one justice. The first blooms on my new plant are absolutely stunning and a more crisp and bright coloring than the photos posted here. I'll try to get some to load. The plant itself seems a bit sparse on foliage, so it isn't the best looking plant so far. No scent that I can detect from the blooms opening. If it stays fairly clean, I'm going to really like this one.
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