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"Odorata" rose Reviews & Comments
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Does anyone happen to know who Elise Sauvage was, that she should have such a lovely rose named for her? Thanks!
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#1 of 5 posted
21 MAY 19 by
 Ms.Lefty
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Rose-biblio durchsuchen says that in the great rose-growing Vibert family there was at the time of breeding this rose an Eliza Vibert, b. Sauvage. This information came from Annales de Flore et de Pomone, Journal of jardins et des champs, 1841, page 15.
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#2 of 5 posted
21 MAY 19 by
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#3 of 5 posted
21 MAY 19 by
jedmar
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I wonder. The reference in the Annales relates to the rose 'Éliza Sauvage'. The information on an Eliza Sauvage married to a Jean Vibert comes from a Vibert family tree of Guernsey, which is a different one than our Jean-Pierre Vibert. The Eliza Sauvage mentioned and pictured married a Jean Vibert who was born in 1828. This means that she was at best around 10 years old when Miellez introduced the rose. We must still find an older Eliza Sauvage from the right region (Lille).
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#4 of 5 posted
29 MAY 19 by
Ms.Lefty
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Jedmar - I checked the reference again, and you're correct - wrong Vibert family! Is it possible that "Sauvage" wasn't the lady's surname, but was used as an adjective, i.e., "Wilde Elise?" But why would one give a name like that to such a refined rose?
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#5 of 5 posted
29 MAY 19 by
jedmar
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No, I think it was a family name. The name Sauvage (also Sauvageau, Sauvageot, Sauvageon) is well-spread especially in Northern France, but also as Savage in England. A statistic I found says that there are 26'750 Savages in the UK! There are living Elise or Eliza Sauvages today.
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The 'buy from' and 'Gardens' have references to this rose, not the actual plant
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