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Discussion id : 87-265
most recent 16 AUG 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 AUG 15 by Darrell
A number of the references for the gallica 'Velours Pourpre' list the Dutch/Netherlands/low countries as the source of this rose. Quite likely the specific source would be Cornelis Stegerhoek of Holland who bred a gallica by this name. That information is listed in Hardy's 1837 Catalogue on page 54.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 16 AUG 15 by jedmar
Thank you, Darrell! We will add this reference.
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Discussion id : 22-662
most recent 23 JAN 09 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 17 NOV 07 by Rosenschule Ruf
This Rose name is a synonym for velours pourpres. We got the Budwood from Roseraie del Haye named as velours noir. Werner Ruf
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 NOV 07 by Cass
Thank you, Werner. HMF has combined the two names.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 23 JAN 09 by jedmar
According to François Joyaux ("La Rose de France") the plant in L'Haÿ is 'Velours pourpre'. The label 'Velours noir' at L'Haÿ is incorrect. Neither of the two gallicas were there in Gravereaux's time. We again will separate the two roses, based on the information from early literature.
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