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'Général Fabvier' rose Reviews & Comments
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Our nursery isn't showing up as premium on searches, I think the renewal is 5 march and I've had no reminders etc (la Roseraie du Désert)
Oops, wrong place!
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14 FEB 15 by
Jay-Jay
The nursery isn't, but John Hook is... as well as Becky Hook.
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Per the paper linked below (in Table 4, beginning on the paper's page 28), this rose is triploid. I am cross-posting this comment on all others mentioned which do not already have their ploidies mentioned in their descriptions.
http://repository.tamu.edu/bitstream/handle/1969.1/ETD-TAMU-2009-12-7450/SOULES-THESIS.pdf?sequence=2
:-)
~Christopher
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There is a 2003 reference which suggests that "Martha Gonzales" is 'Fabvier'.
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I have been told that this rose is genetically identical to Fabvier but they are obviously 2 different roses (flowers foliage and growth), maybe its a sport in the same way as Spray Cecile Brunner is to Cecile Brunner.
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I'm airing my ignorance here, but has anyone grown Fabvier and White Pearl in Red Dragon's Mouth side by side? Given that the one of earliest references for Fabvier mentions a full, domed, once-blooming pink rose, I'm wondering if a mixup occurred soon after.
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24 SEP 11 by
IanM
I think you may be right Margaret. Both bloom in flushes, so that early reference to 'Fabvier' being once blooming is intriguing. The name 'White Pearl in Red Dragon's Mouth' does sound more like 'Fabvier', but then a pearl is fairly tiny so it may relate to the way the white circle is hidden within the "dragon's mouth" (i.e. red petals)?? Even so, I am at a loss to know how to tell 'White Pearl in Red Dragon's Mouth' from 'Cramoisi Superieur'!!
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