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Discussion id : 167-326
most recent 29 MAY HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 MAY by odinthor
The missing line of the 1851 Horticulturalist quote is:

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Reply #1 of 1 posted 29 MAY by jedmar
Quote completed, best thanks!
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Discussion id : 63-691
most recent 19 APR 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 APR 12 by CybeRose
Three Years Wanderings in the Northern Provinces in China (1847) p. 322
Robert Fortune
Another rose, which the Chinese call the “five-coloured,” was also found in one of these gardens at this time. It belongs to the section commonly called China roses in this country, but grows in a very strange and beautiful manner. Sometimes it produces self-coloured blooms—being either red or French white, and frequently having flowers of both on one plant at the same time—while at other times the flowers are striped with the two colours. This will also be as hardy as our common China rose.
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Discussion id : 15-300
most recent 5 DEC 06 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 DEC 06 by William Harp
There's a rose in my nighborhood which I'm pretty sure is Fortune's Five Colored Rose, or Smith's Parish. It doesn't seem to have any prickles... Any comments? The owner bought the house in 1984 from original builder, said to be a rosarian.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 4 DEC 06 by Cass
Bill, start with digital images of the key botanical characteristics: a leaf front and back in high resolution that will show any fuzz or glands; a portion of cane of the current year's growth, showing any glaucous quality; a stipule; any hips; the receptacle and sepals. Take apart a fresh bloom and examine the color of the stamens and filaments. Take apart a bloom and shoot the petals. It can take a full season to acquire a set of shots. A diligent rosarian may see them here and compare them a plant of "Smith's Parish."
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 5 DEC 06 by Cass
I've confirmed that "Smith's Parish" does indeed have falcate prickles, not at all thornless.

The rose posted here as Fortune's Five Colored Rose is actually "Smith's Parish," an attribution that is not universally accepted.
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Discussion id : 11-558
most recent 13 MAR 06 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 MAR 06 by Liesbeth
In the opinion of the Bermuda Rose Society "Smith's Parish" and "Red Smith's Parish" (sport of the former) should not be synonymous with 'Fortune's Five-Coloured Rose'. According to The Graham Stuart Thomas ROSE BOOK, page 131 : 'Five-coloured China Rose' .This is a remarkable plant discovered by Robert Fortune during his journeys in China for the then Horticultural Society of London, recorded in his book 'Three Years' Wanderings in the Northern Provinces of China', of 1847. It has been treasured for many years in Bermuda, whence came my plants. In China it is known as 'Wu Se' Quaing Wei'...... It was definitely NOT bred in England by Fortune!
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