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'Zecchino' rose Reviews & Comments
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11 MAY 21 by
 Cà Berta
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Hortus mortolensis alfabetico 2004
pag 177
R. ‘Zecchino' – Mansuino, Italia , 1968 –
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21 OCT 12 by
andrewandsally
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If Zecchino and Zecchino d'Oro are the same, then it is worth pointing out that Vittorio Barni and Carlo Medici in their book 'Sublime Rosa' give the date of this variety as 1964.
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#1 of 1 posted
21 OCT 12 by
jedmar
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Thank you! Let us assume for the time being that these are synonyms.
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27 JAN 12 by
Cà Berta
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This rose apparently was bred by Mansuino (see References)
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#1 of 7 posted
28 JAN 12 by
RoseBlush
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Using Google to translate the REFERENCE, it says "obtained by the Italian coach of Sanremo Mansuino several new varieties of flowers and small media such as: Torino, generous, Letizia, Biancaneve, Gardenia, Brakes, Zecchino d'oro, Alba di Primavera, which end up producing 30-40 flowers on one plant." which does not identify Mansuino as the breeder.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#2 of 7 posted
28 JAN 12 by
Cà Berta
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Hello Lyn,
Thank you for your translation work. Of course I am not sure that Zecchino d’Oro was bred by Quinto Mansuino (I wrote apparently). However:
Torino was bred by Mansuino (I sent a rose omission comment two days ago about this rose with the reference)
Generosa synonym of Mansuino Rose
Letizia, there are two Letizia (Bianca and Rosa) bred by Mansuino
Biancaneve bred by Mansuino
Gardenia (?)
Frine bred by Mansuino
Alba di primavera, Mansuino bred a rose named Alba.
No certainty, then, but a few points in favour of this hypothesis.
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#3 of 7 posted
28 JAN 12 by
RoseBlush
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Hi Bruna......
We cannot add a breeder name to a rose page based upon a hypothesis as that is not the purpose of a database.
I see that Torino, generous/Generosa, Letizia, Biancaneve, Gardenia are all listed in the translation above as being "obtained" by Mansuino not bred by Mansuino.
I guess I am getting confused when you say things like "apparently" because to me, it doesn't quite confirm anything about the breeding of the rose.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#4 of 7 posted
28 JAN 12 by
Cà Berta
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Hello Lyn,
I agree with you that in the main page of a rose the "certainty" must be loaded and not the hypothesis. You correctly are doing your job while I am gathering as many informations as possible to allow you to do your job. Unfortunatly not always they are as clear as we wish but sometime a tiny information can be the start for more consistent findings. Thank you, Bruna
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#6 of 7 posted
28 JAN 12 by
RoseBlush
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Thank you for explaining, Bruna. I just couldn't fit it together.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#5 of 7 posted
28 JAN 12 by
jedmar
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Lyn, "obtained" means "bred" in French, Italian, etc.
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#7 of 7 posted
28 JAN 12 by
RoseBlush
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Jedmar............
Thank you. I would have never guessed based upon how the word is used in the US. That makes a world of difference.
Smiles,
Lyn
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